Kick in the head is easily a DFK offense, with at least a yellow for committing the offense in a reckless manner, if not red for excessive force. I would lean towards red in this situation, because a kick to the head is dangerous, period.
Here's a video of a couple things from last nights Union - CA game. Mbaizo take a hand to the face and loses a tooth. PK for CA - not a whole lot there. No PK for Burke - yes a shoulder challenge but...
While I'm not seeing the official list posted anywhere, I think it was Fisher at VAR that gave this... I mean, there has to be a different angle, because I can't believe this was given by VAR (in real time the referee played on). 1426028169266712581 is not a valid tweet id
I think there was an angle down the 18 they gave that was probably the best look at the contact? I did not and do not think this was clearly wrong to play on, but I would also support a foul if given. Still, I'd like to see all the angles again in case there's something that changes my mind. I don't know if this is something PRO would broach on their video. I would think not, but they're at least involved enough to send the outcomes out on Twitter.
Well.. watching the Union vs Club America. IMO a very clear DOGSO just got given as a yellow. VAR did not intervene. If I get a video, I'll post it.. but I am struggling to see how is this given as a yellow in the box. No play on the ball at all.
I don’t understand how you justify a yellow. What is the caution for? Aren’t your only choices there as a red either no card or dogso. Obvious dogso imho….but in no scenario is that a yellow.
And now... foul by Bedoya, who is on a yellow card already. No card was given. VAR calls over for an OFR... they look it, spend over a minute looking at the potential red card review which ends in... nothing. Bizarre.
Having seen neither of these clips and based solely on your posts, I'm even more convinced that CONCACAF somehow made the correct decision to not use VAR in WCQs.
I'm sure it has happened, but I can't remember an OFR for a red card ending up not being even a yellow.
Got both clips. PK with a yellow here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/yTTJffBgKtNt47pFA And the bizarre OFR https://photos.app.goo.gl/UPoddFYavPF4BDRh7
That's 100% a red for DOGSO. So I guess the OFR is for the leg coming down on the foot of the attacker? Seems like a probable yellow, but I don't know how this gets sent down for SFP. Almost seems like a situation where the VAR was trying to make a 2nd yellow happen and the ref was like "nope this is CONCACAF".
Agree. But my question is…what is the possible justification for a yellow? Like how do you report that? Other than stating that you misapplied the laws?
I would imagine it is written down either as DOGSO yellow or SPA. (The only explanation I have for the mistake is that in the heat of the moment the R is thinking PK + DOGSO = yellow, and forgetting the rest of the requirements. That is understandable to me--but it is not understandable to me that the VAR didn't engage to get it fixed.) On the second, I think SFP is absolutely defensible. But I don't think failing to send off is a clear error, though I am lost on how it could not be at least a caution. (I would guess that the R was focused on "is it SFP" and got lost on the fact that he could issue a caution based on the video if he disagreed with the VAR that it was SFP--but again, the VAR should have been able to help, at least asking if he was going to caution.) Hanlon's razor here--we don't need to assume a deliberate violation of norms to understand this getting sent down.
Having now seen both clips, this is still the takeaway. Just a disaster all-around. The first must be DOGSO-red. There's no alternative. The only "excuse," in the heat of the moment, is the idea that the other defender who is more central is "covering." But that's demonstrably false on replay. The second is bizarre. Maybe there's enough to justify a red if it is given, but it's not clearly a red so it's a bad send down. Of course, the lack of yellow in the first place is poor refereeing. Then you have the added component that a bad send down for SFP when a player is already on a yellow does create the backdoor where you're obligated to show the 2CT. But in a match where you probably know you biffed the earlier DOGSO that would have benefited the home team, do you really want to produce that 2CT on what amounts to a bad recommendation by the VAR? He's essentially created the double jeopardy that isn't supposed to exist. Of course, that is IF the referee understands he's obligated to give that second yellow. Either he doesn't, which is bad. Or he knows it and is opting not to, because of all the context. Also quite bad. From the moment that foul gets called, it appears there is a series of bad decision that ultimately result, somehow, in Bedoya not getting sent off when he 100% should. CONCACAF.
https://www.concacaf.com/en/concaca...ted-for-2021-scl-first-leg-semifinal-matches/ match officials 2021 Scotiabank Concacaf League first leg semifinal matches November 23-24, 2021 CD Guastatoya (GUA) vs Comunicaciones FC (GUA) Referee: Keylor Herrera (CRC) Hamilton Forge FC (CAN) vs FC Motagua (HON) Referee: Enrique Santander (MEX)