New Pots have been announced after Chelskis win yesterday: "Champions League 2021-22 pots Pot 1 Manchester City (ENG) Atlético Madrid (ESP) Bayern Monaco (Munich, LOL)(GER) Lille (FRA) Villareal (ESP) Inter (ITA) Sporting Lisbon (POR) Chelsea (ENG) Pot 2 Real Madrid (ESP) Barcelona (ESP) Juventus (ITA) PSG (FRA) Manchester United (ENG) Liverpool (ENG) Sevilla (ESP) Borussia Dortmund (GER) Pot 3 Ajax (NED) Leipzig (GER) Atalanta (ITA) Porto (POR) Zenit (RUS) Pot 4 Milan (ITA) Wolfsburg (GER)..." Arguably, Pot 2 is stronger than Pot 1! Some strong teams in Pot 3 as well and we could see a few "Groups of Death" with 3 top teams in 1 group based on this.
Ajax got bounced to Pot 3 based on league and EL results. I've gone through the permutations and they are not pretty. Worst Pot 1 pick for Ajax is Bayern because they can then draw any of the Pot 2 teams except Dortmund. Juve are lucky in that the only tough teams in Pot 3 are Ajax and Leipzig so the Pot 1 draw may be kinder. Still I'm not sure Juve want to be in a group with Ajax and Bayern. .
Rooting to face Sporting, Lille, or Lisbon from Pot 1. To be honest, with Juve likely strengthening this summer, the only Pot 1 side I see that would finish ahead of us in a group would be Bayern.
Sporting and Lisbon are one and the same. Glad to see your misplaced optimism that Juve would finish above Chelsea or ManCity.
Not that I am disagreeing, because we have severely under performed in the knockouts the last 2 years but Juve have been at their best when people doubt us. We have won the group the last 3 years. Those group contested with United, Atletico, and Barca in that order. With that said, the teams to avoid next year will probably be the English teams because almost everyone else is in the same boat as Juve with new management and figuring stuff out. Citeh and Chelsea would be the only two that I would want to avoid.
We don't even know if we'll be playing the CL this year with all that's going on. UEFA is gonna try their hardest to exclude us, we'll see who blinks first.
The question for me is, if it goes to CAS and they rule in the SL clubs favor. What does Ceferin and co. do? Appeal? Take it to the UN? lol If the SL clubs lose, they are obviously screwed and that is the end of it.
Juve will be in the CL next year, UEFA's all talk at this point, but the ESL has the court behind them. Ceferin, the idiot that he is, was talking about how he was going to take it to the EU because Macron and Johnson are behind him. Uhh, the UK isn't part of the EU so they can ******** off with that.
UEFA are playing with fire here. If they press this BS they will lose in any real court because they ARE a monopoly and they just abused their power with threats and such to scuttle a legit enterprise within 48 hours. If they had any sense (FIFA seems to understand this), they would listen to Platini and enter into negotiations with the clubs and cut a deal that addresses a lot of the Super Clubs issues rather than risk their entire governing position to a court decision. 'Cause if they do that and lose, which is likely IMHO, it will be a nuclear bomb even in relation to the Bosman ruling that blew up the club's control over players.
City took it to CAS and won. Now if Ceferin banned Spanish and Italy clubs, they all will take it to CAS. And with Ceferin "Selective Punishment" is not gonna hold up in CAS court.
And I'm not gonna wwatch the CL with just English clubs, the last 2 all English final was boring as f. The Liverpool vs Tottenham, and the City vs Chelsea, both were BORING.
Citeh won with the same reason why Inter didn't get indicted with Calciopoli. The statute of limitations (evidence was too old by the time it was found/presented) from my understanding.
Uefa e Fifa sarebbero state bloccate dal Ministero della Giustizia svizzero nell'intraprendere misure punitive contro #Juventus, #RealMadrid e #Barcellona per la vicenda #Superlega. Se l'indiscrezione di Cadena Ser fosse confermata, sarebbe scongiurato il rischio squalifica #UCL.— Giovanni Albanese (@GiovaAlbanese) June 7, 2021 Could be good if confimed
⚠️La #UEFA ha comunicato alla #Juventus che sarà iscritta alla prossima edizione della @ChampionsLeague— Romeo Agresti (@romeoagresti) June 15, 2021 UEFA confirms Juventus will be registered in the CL this upcoming season.
They had better buckle up if what they re trying is more than bluster and posturing. if UEFA pushes things in court they could be severely damaged.
Seriously, did anyone thing UEFA could do something here? They would likely lose at the CAS. Juve is in far more danger from being docked points in Serie A than any toothless UEFA gambit. UEFA cannot even enforce financial fair play.
I didn't mind away goals except when it went to extra time. It was redic when an extra time away goal counted twice. Still, this is probably fairer, though the first leg will likely revert to being a very cagey affair like it was before they instituted the away goals to encourage away teams to attack.
For sure. At the same time, this puts even more responsibility on the team who plays at home first to get a result. 2 0-0 draws means the second home team goes through right? Or does it now mean that ET is required and possibly penalties?
Draw is today, here are the groups: Group A Manchester City PSG RB Leipzig Club Brugge Group B Atletico Madrid Liverpool Porto AC Milan Group C Sporting Lisbon Borussia Dortmund Ajax Besiktas Group D Inter Milan Real Madrid Shakthar Donetsk Sheriff Group E Bayern Munich Barcelona Benfica Dynamo Kyiv Group F Villareal Manchester United Atalanta Young Boys Group G Lille Sevilla Salzburg Wolfsburg Group H Chelsea Juventus Zenit St. Petersburg Malmo
I think it's kind of gross what UEFA is doing right now with the award and Eriksen incident at the Euros. Feels like they're exploiting it. And by they're I mean UEFA.