2020 USMNT Schedule

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  1. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  2. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In the Hexagonal for 2018, we played home then away in all five pairs. The Octagonal will have this breakdown:

    3 teams will play one home game in each pair
    4 teams will play one home game in five pairs, two home games in one pair, and no home games in one pair
    1 team will play one home game in three pairs, two home games in two pairs, and two home games in two pairs.

    Which of these would you prefer?

    1: HA-HA-AH-HH-AH-AA-HA (1 window with both at home and 1 window with both away)
    2: AA-HH-AH-HA-HH-AA-HA (2 windows with both at home and 2 windows with both away)
    3: HH-AH-AH-HA-AA-HA-HA (1 window with both at home and 1 window with both away)
    4: AH-AH-AH-HA-HA-HA-HA (1 home and 1 away in every window)
    5: HA-HA-HA-AH-AH-AH-AH (1 home and 1 away in every window)
    6: AH-HA-HA-AH-HA-AH-AH (1 home and 1 away in every window)
    7: HA-AH-HA-AA-AH-HH-AH (1 window with both at home and 1 window with both away)
    8: AH-AA-HA-AH-HA-HH-AH (1 window with both at home and 1 window with both away)

    The draw will randomly assign numbers, so 1 doesn't mean the top team in the FIFA Rankings. 7 and 8 have their last game and three of their last four at home. 5 has one home game in each pair and has the home game second in the last four pairs. If you would rather play more home games early, 3 is the only team who starts with three of four at home.
     
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  3. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    if you look at who "advanced" last time, including the playoff, it was the home teams the last game. that's the only place where i'd buy your disbursement of H and A.

    otherwise the key feature of last cycle was WHO the first two games. we opened the schedule with the top 2, took nothing, and were forever playing catchup with a new coach. we finally caught up after panama only to need a road result to finish which while something we should have been capable -- we took 4 pts from both middle pack sides -- is not a gimmee.

    so i'd think the concrete specifics of WHO matter early on -- particularly with a coach who stuttered out of a NL group on tiebreak -- because it could be friendly or mean to him and by extension us. like, i think he had very friendly groups for NL and Gold Cup that flattered him.

    i think your stuff tends to even out over time but can specifically matter if you end up in a position where you need a tough result and the arrangement deals you a long trip and a finishing "A" fixture.

    imagine if we had to get a result away to Canada to close last year. on that i buy that the arrangement dealt us Cuba away Canada home and that was ideal. but even that might be exaggerated as review of the NL group schedule would find that Canada got to rest and finish with one fixture from the last paired date and still couldn't get the road result.

    also, to me schedule concerns tend to be more the dwelling of the mediocre. the 2014 team has to play Panama away to close but it doesn't matter because they already clinched. mexico in 2018 doesn't need its last game. we won, they lost, it mattered more to the other teams than themselves.
     
  4. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    First thought: HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
     
  5. Jay510

    Jay510 Member+

    Apr 21, 2002
    Gadsden Purchase, AZ
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    3 of the last 4 at home is always the best option. Maybe we can even have fans in the stands
     
  6. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Ocho Schedule is out.

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    Here is the 1st round groups so you know who Group _ winner might be referring to

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  7. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Tough finishing holes ...
     
  8. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    So A/F is probably El Salvador or T&T.
    B/E is probably Canada or Haiti or maybe Nicaragua.
    C/D is probably Curacao, Guatemala, or Panama.
     
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  9. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    seems to me like they are going to start with T&T and Canada which will be interesting.
     
  10. slider4CU

    slider4CU Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    United States
    Apr 12, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seems we should have a friendly schedule announced soon, no?
     
  11. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Soccerway and Wikipedia say that Mexico is hosting Costa Rica on September 30 and Mexico is going to Netherlands on October 7. Flash Score doesn't have those games schedule. None of U.S. Soccer, Soccerway, or Flash Score have friendlies scheduled.
     
  12. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Friendlies seem like the epitome of stupid.
     
  13. mike4066

    mike4066 Member+

    Jun 30, 2007
    Chula Vista, CA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In the US, yes In Europe, probably good to go.
     
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  14. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
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  16. phillyfan593

    phillyfan593 Member

    Jul 20, 2011
    Anywhere in the US is good to go.
     
  17. mike4066

    mike4066 Member+

    Jun 30, 2007
    Chula Vista, CA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    That would depend on if the players were still in a bubble from playing in MLS plus I think we would have trouble getting our Euro players here
     
  18. blech

    blech Member+

    Jun 24, 2002
    California
    Separate US-based and Euro-based squads?
     
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  19. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    Looks like an all Euro-based squad for the November window. Rumors of games vs. Wales and New Zealand.

    October would be an all Domestic side with games presumably somewhere in the U.S. EUFA & CONMEBOL teams aren't available, as they have Nation's League and WCQ respectively. AFC and CAF cancelled their qualifiers, so those teams are "available". Not sure if any would come over, but other than China and Iran, I do not see any travel restrictions for those coming. Maybe we could convince S.Korea and someone like Qatar?

    CONCACAF is supposed to start WCQ for the bottom 30, so it leaves only Mexico, Costa Rica, Honduras, and Jamaica as options. Mexico is already booked so they are out. C.R. has a game with Mexico but free for another. Honduras and Jamaica can put together a team of MLS/USL players together of at least some quality.

    CONCACAF said October WCQ might be cancelled, so theoretically that frees up Canada or Panama or ... But if that does happen, it's more likley we don't play any friendlies in the window either. It's less than 30 days out, so sadly it looks more and more like zilch.
     
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  20. blech

    blech Member+

    Jun 24, 2002
    California
    Thanks. Loses some of the value of the friendlies as the "first" team ultimately needs to be integrated, but it makes plenty of sense under the circumstances as well as builds the pool.
     
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  21. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2021 Gold Cup Draw is tonight at 8 PM (ET)

    US will be in group B
     
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  22. alslammerz

    alslammerz Member

    Sep 3, 2007
    Staten Island, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Canada, Martinique, and whoever emerges from the Haiti/St. Vincent/Bermuda/Barbados prelims.
     
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  23. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    an all-euro team is likely better than the "first" team anyway.
     
  24. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like Wales and then The Aussies at Craven Cottage for our next matches

     
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  25. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m seeing wales 11/12 & panama 11/16. And I only see them on UniMas en espanol. Is that right??

    Edit: correction... the first one seems to be on FS1 too :)
     

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