2020 Tokyo Olympics - general discussion

Discussion in '2020 Women's Olympics Soccer' started by shlj, May 3, 2018.

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  1. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Despite how common a group stage USA-SWE match is in the WWC, it's only happened once in the OG group stage, in the very first year (1996). I seriously hope it can be avoided this year. It's a 50/50 shot this year.
     
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  2. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
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    Japan and Canada most likely togheter in group A.
     
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  3. Neytreenor

    Neytreenor Member

    May 3, 2014
    It seems that Brazil automatically go to a group with Netherlands. And chances of USA + Sweden is 50% (who am I kidding? one can already consider it as a fact).
    And Canada go to a group with Japan.
     
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  4. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Probabilities of opponents for top seeds:
    Japan:
    Pot 2: Sweden 50%, Great Britain 50%
    Pot 3: Canada 100%
    Pot 4:New Zealand 33,3%, Chile 33,3%, Zambia 33,3%

    USA:
    Pot 2: Sweden 50%, Great Britain 50%
    Pot 3: Australia 50%, China 50%
    Pot 4: New Zealand 16,7%, Chile 66,7%, Zambia 16,7%

    Netherlands:
    Pot 2: Brazil 100%
    Pot 3: Australia 50%, China 50%
    Pot 4: New Zealand 50%, Zambia 50%
     
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  5. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
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    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I can't see why Chile can't be in Netherlands group, because, with Brazil as the only allowed pot 2 team, there can't be two CONMEBOL teams in the same group.

    But why should this affect the chances of having Chile in Group B and not in group A? :cautious:
     
  6. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Probabilities of opponents for pot 2 teams:
    Sweden:
    Pot 1: Japan 50%, USA 50%
    Pot 3: Canada 50%, Australia 25%, China 25%
    Pot 4: New Zealand 25%, Chile 50%, Zambia 25%

    Great Britain:
    Pot 1: Japan 50%, USA 50%
    Pot 3: Canada 50%, Australia 25%, China 25%
    Pot 4: New Zealand 25%, Chile 50%, Zambia 25%

    Brazil:
    Pot 1: Netherlands 100%
    Pot 3: Australia 50%, China 50%
    Pot 4: New Zealand 50%, Zambia 50%
     
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  7. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Japan is in Group E (Women`s groups are E,F and G). I expect that they will draw Group E first. All three options from pot 4 are possible so that the possibility for Chile in Group E will be 33,3%. If Chile is not drawn in Japan`s group their only option is the USA group because Brazil is in the Netherlands group.
     
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  8. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #184 Lohmann, Apr 16, 2021
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2021
    Probabilities of opponents for pot 3 teams:
    Canada:
    Pot 1: Japan 100%
    Pot 2: Sweden 50%, Great Britain 50%
    Pot 4: New Zealand 33,3%, Chile 33,3%, Zambia 33,3%

    Australia:
    Pot 1: USA 50%, Netherlands 50%
    Pot 2: Sweden 25%, Great Britain 25%, Brazil 50%
    Pot 4: New Zealand 33,3%, Chile 33,3%, Zambia 33,3%

    China:
    Pot 1: USA 50%, Netherlands 50%
    Pot 2: Sweden 25%, Great Britain 25%, Brazil 50%
    Pot 4: New Zealand 33,3%, Chile 33,3%, Zambia 33,3%
     
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  9. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Probabilities of opponents for pot 4 teams:
    New Zealand:
    Pot 1: Japan 33,3%, USA 16,7%, Netherlands 50%
    Pot 2: Sweden 25%, Great Britain 25%, Brazil 50%
    Pot 3: Canada 33,3%, Australia 33,3%, China 33,3%

    Chile:
    Pot 1: Japan 33,3%, USA 66,7%
    Pot 2: Sweden 50%, Great Britain 50%
    Pot 3: Canada 33,3%, Australia 33,3%, China 33,3%

    Zambia:
    Pot 1: Japan 33,3%, USA 16,7%, Netherlands 50%
    Pot 2: Sweden 25%, Great Britain 25%, Brazil 50%
    Pot 3: Canada 33,3%, Australia 33,3%, China 33,3%
     
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  10. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It might be an advantage for the US to have Sweden in its group because it would eliminate the possibility of meeting Sweden in a quarterfinal (I think)
    Nice work.
     
  11. JanBalk

    JanBalk Member+

    Jun 9, 2004
    Uppsala, Sweden
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    It would be an even bigger advantage for Sweden.
     
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  12. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
  13. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    Have any non-English players been invited to train or play with the England national team that will play as Great Britain in the Olympics? I haven't noticed any. Does this mean that Kim LIttle (Scotland) and Jess Fishlock (Wales), to mention two prominent names, won't play with Great Britain? Wouldn't they have been invited to a camp or two by now? Seems a bit strange as we're talking about two very good players in Little and Fishlock.
     
  14. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    They are training with their respective NT during the international breaks. I don't think the Scottish and Welsh FA like Team GB, they just "allow" their players to participate.

    The plan is one friendly in Europe for Team GB and then they surely will organise a bcd one while preparing in Japan.
     
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  15. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
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    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I wonder if, now that Northern Ireland have qualified for Euro 2022, it is possible that some of their players are considered for team GB. :)

    Ok, I know the anser is a "No". I thought that even just wondering was funny! :p
     
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  16. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    The FA has cut down the long list to 35 with 26 English players named as the 24 who were on the original list for England France and England Canada plus Houghton and Parris. Therefore there are 9 non English players in the list.

    The only two NIR players worth of a chance are Furness who broke her fibula against Ukraine and Magill. There are better English forwards than Magill imo.
     
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  17. JanBalk

    JanBalk Member+

    Jun 9, 2004
    Uppsala, Sweden
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    Oh, I think some of them may be "considered" but I much doubt any will be selected.
     
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  18. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
  19. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Games between group opponents at Olympic Games:
    JPN-CAN 2:1(2012)
    GBR-CAN 0:2(2012)
    BRA-CHN 2:3(1996)
    BRA-CHN 3:0(2016)
    USA-SWE 2:1(1996)
    USA-SWE 1:1aet pen:3:4(2016)
    USA-AUS 1:1(2004)
    USA-NZL 4:0(2008)
    USA-NZL 2:0(2012)
    USA-NZL 2:0(2016)
    SWE-AUS 1:1(2000)
    SWE-AUS 2:1(2004)

    USA vs New Zealand will be the second pairing that is played at four different Olympic Games (Germany vs Sweden 2000,2004,2008,2016).
     
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  20. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I consider Group E (Japan, GB, Canada, Chile) the group of death.
     
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  21. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Very early prediction

    Group E---------------------Group F----------------------Group G
    1.JPN-----------------------1. BRA-------------------------1. SWE
    2. GBR
    ----------------------2. CHN-------------------------2. USA
    3.CAN
    -----------------------3. NED-------------------------3. AUS
    4. CHI-----------------------4. ZAM--------------------------4. NZL

    QF

    JPN - NED
    SWE - CAN

    BRA - USA
    GBR - CHN

    SF

    JPN - SWE
    BRA - CHN

    Gold

    JPN - BRA

    Bronze

    SWE - CHN

    I will edit those (or not) after June friendlies ;)
     
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  22. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    GROUP E
    1. Japan
    2. Canada
    3. Great Britain
    4. Chile

    GROUP F
    1. Netherlands
    2. Brazil
    3. China
    4. Zambia

    GROUP G
    1. USA
    2. Sweden
    3. Australia
    4. New Zealand

    QF
    Japan def. China
    USA def. Great Britain
    Netherlands def. Canada
    Sweden def. Brazil

    SF
    Japan def. Sweden
    Netherlands def. USA

    GOLD
    Japan def. Netherlands

    BRONZE
    USA def. Sweden
     
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  23. nick p

    nick p Member+

    Jul 11, 2009
    Baltimore Maryland
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I feel like the group stage has the potential to be wild
     
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  24. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    After reading how the knockout stage is set-up, this is my prediction:

    QF
    Japan def. China
    USA def. Great Britain
    Netherlands def. Sweden
    Brazil def. Canada

    SF
    Japan def. USA
    Netherlands def. Brazil

    GOLD
    Japan def. Netherlands

    BRONZE
    USA def. Brazil
     

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