News: 2020 Season and Virus Talk

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  1. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    Your ideas of freedom are f*cked. If we get elected you trash the capitol and say we can leave the country. Real democracy lovers.
     
  2. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    Your arguments about the graphs are intellectual trash as well. The virus has a 7 day incubation period and it then takes further weeks to make official statistics. It's more like 3-4 weeks for the impact to show up. Apparently you don't get that, say, December then January numbers reflect Turkey day plus Xmas visits. The numbers go back down when people go back home, and you're pimping more public interaction. I -- and the experts -- say just wait a couple weeks for your spike:

    https://www.tampabay.com/news/healt...ke-from-tampas-super-bowl-events-experts-say/

    The event was less than a week ago so we are still well within average incubation. The full range of incubation actually goes out to 2-3 weeks for some people. 7 days is just an average.

    Extreme example -- little known thing, HIV has like a 7-10 YEAR incubation. When the 80s cases showed up it was 70s free love playing out. Westie would of course be acting like they escaped the 70s without event.

    Kind of like if you sell Elis in the summer the real effect will play out the rest of the season. If people remember back in the summer we went on a three game streak and were north of the red line........
     
  3. juvechelsea

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    Feb 15, 2006
    Re schools, the facts are that school districts like HISD keeping actual track tally 100s or 1000s of cases. HISD is at 2700 students + faculty. We then do not do contact tracing to follow where those cases go into the broader public.

    If you apply my 3-4 weeks heuristic, the numbers started upwards when schools went back in session and rocketed for the holidays. Virus numbers do not magically go up. Either the virus gets more infectious or nasty, or more people interact somehow.

    If you wanted to make a real argument, Fauci and others have suggested that the students in and of themselves have different health risks at K-8 and then as HS students, former low risk, latter adult risk. But that ignores the risks to the staff and student/staff families with whom the students interact. A lot of the research done is in rural or low community spread settings, not urban settings or ones where the virus is already prevalent. Yeah, if there is no virus it gets safer to risk the virus. Has the US since last March looked like a safe place with no community spread? That's Australia that you make fun of.

    The irony of painting the centrist Biden as some raving socialist is he seems little more willing than Trump to attack the underlying reasons this thing is everywhere. He is similarly in the Chamber of Commerce camp where we pretend everything is ok. We treat as a cost of doing business stuff that would be considered. by other countries to be shameful incompetence.

    I have heard discussion of a color coded system reflecting varying levels of community spread for school purposes. The problem with such "guidelines" is you have governors who watch the numbers surpass the triggers and don't do a thing. Reality is we have community spread numbers where most other countries would be shuttering businesses, schools, everything. We justify opening schools because studies show safer countries can open theirs when it's safe without actually acknowledging it's unsafe from go here.
     
  4. juvechelsea

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    Feb 15, 2006
  5. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
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  6. Westside Cosmo

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    Your arguments are losers, just stop, schools are safe and only your tortured translations make it seem unsafe. Go hide in your house and let the kids go to school
     
  7. Westside Cosmo

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    Oct 4, 2007
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    Numbers are dropping and the media can’t come up with any legit stories so now it’s speculation articles and predictions. notice by the way how quiet it’s gotten about Covid stuff last 2 weeks,
     
  8. Westside Cosmo

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    seems like you’d feel safer there than here - your “safe space”
     
  9. Westside Cosmo

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    What reality was bad? I’ve lived my life, traveled, eaten out, kids in school, how bad is it? The absurd restrictions are a nuisance but I go to work every day.

    Florida - who the “experts” you trust have trashed for months, has done just fine. Yiu make no sense. You are a scared loser who has to double down on doom because you can’t admit the last year of restricting life was a horrible and wrong decision.
     
  10. Penwyth

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    westside,

    481K dead Americans...and counting. Not much speculation and prediction there.

    Its a shit show...thanks to Trump and his supporters [see mirror]
     
  11. Westside Cosmo

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    waaah, blame it all on Trump - ignore Cuomo, Newsom, every other Dem that was wrong from March 2020 on. Fauci was the worst and he’s a liberal. You do realize of the alleged 481k dead (with Covid, not necessarily from Covid) about 85% of them are over 65. Over half are over 75.
     
  12. Westside Cosmo

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    It’s been nice not to hear about Covid garbage the last week in Houston - oh, by the way the bars can now reopen too!!
     
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  13. Dynamo_Forever

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    Aug 9, 2007
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    Your power must have been out.
     
  14. Westside Cosmo

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    Oh it was for a while like many but it was nice not to hear the breathless predictions of a doom on the local news all week. I wonder if all the doomers with busted pipes are turning away plumbers who don’t wear masks?
     
  15. Dynamo_Forever

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    Aug 9, 2007
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    My wife has disposable masks and booties for anyone coming to our house to work. But masks are probably the least of your worries with plumbers.
     
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  16. juvechelsea

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    Feb 15, 2006
    https://www.ferc.gov/sites/default/files/2020-04/08-16-11-report.pdf

    if there is a risk the right wing business community will underestimate it

    "The storm, however, was not without precedent. There were prior severe cold weather events in the Southwest in 1983, 1989, 2003, 2006, 2008, and 2010." [And that was written about 2011, not the most recent one.]

    It also amuses me they try to frame the discussion as risk vs cost -- the logic of a gambler or someone going without a key piece of insurance -- as opposed to, HOW MUCH PROFIT DID THEY LOSE BEING INOPERATIVE AT A PEAK PERIOD OF DEMAND.

    Similar to the restaurateurs who would rather be open but crippled in a pandemic than take harsher measures, zero the virus, and be able to run full blast. Confusing anti government zealotry with good business, which includes stuff like I want schools well funded and effective so the people who work for me aren't idiots.
     
  17. Westside Cosmo

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  18. Westside Cosmo

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  19. Westside Cosmo

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    Oct 4, 2007
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  20. Westside Cosmo

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    Well, I guess it’s a bad day to a be a virus doomer in Texas.
     
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  22. juvechelsea

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    Feb 15, 2006
    "However, New Zealand's swift measures during the past year, combined with aggressive contact tracing and border closure, have been credited for its success in restraining the pandemic.

    With 5 million people, New Zealand has recorded just over 2,000 infections since the start of the pandemic, and 26 deaths."

    What they do is lock down sufficiently early where locking down ends the problem. If you have two cases and tell people stay home then you soon have no cases and go back to normal. If you have 2000 cases then you are kidding yourself and your choice is mitigation vs apocalypse. When we do measures we are just trying to mop up a mess.
     
  23. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    because a politician who already screwed up covid and the winter grid must be right this time?
     
  24. Westside Cosmo

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    Oct 4, 2007
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    What are they gonna do this for next 20 years?
     
  25. Westside Cosmo

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    I guess you just ought to move
     

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