2020 Roster Speculation Thread

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  1. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Some speculation seems to be a DP that could drop into TAM range next season. Will have to see when announced. I wouldn't hate that arrangement tbh.
     
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  2. TyrusRose

    TyrusRose Member+

    chicago fire
    North Korea
    Jun 17, 2019
    I heard DP, hope I'm wrong
     
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  3. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Yeah, not ideal. But it is what it is (cliche city). We need players NOW! If he can be bought down to TAM range next season that would be good.
     
  4. TyrusRose

    TyrusRose Member+

    chicago fire
    North Korea
    Jun 17, 2019
    I mean if he performs at a DP level then I have no complaints. If he can perform at a DP level and still cost TAM, even better. If he plays like a TAM as a DP, then I'll be disappointed.
     
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  5. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    #1155 xtomx, Feb 1, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2020
    This, except it limits our ability to sign that high profile player we need.
     
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  6. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I get the feeling that Pizarro in Miami is going to make Mansueto second guess Heitz's judgement.
     
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  7. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Unless the team wins.

    I know, I know.
     
  8. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Wait, is the Fire's inability to land Pizarro, on Heitz? (serious question, clueless here).
     
  9. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    According to Tyrus. He says Mansueto wanted Pizarro but Heitz felt the money could be better used elsewhere.
     
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  10. Jiggly_333

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    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Yeah, it doesn't seem like it's "inability" as much as it was "willingness".
     
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  11. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I seriously have no idea, but could what Pizarro want play into this in part? Transfer money being equal, might Pizarro prefer the Beckham Experience to a reconfiguring outfut that has been reconfiguring for some number of years?
     
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  12. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    And...if the player has any input, Pizarro my want to rejoin his former coach.

    On top of Heitz/Wicky not being taken with him from a strictly specific skill set perspective.

    And f%#k Miami for several non soccer related reasons anyhow.
     
  13. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Yep. There are myriad variables in any transfer, not the least of which is the player's preference.
     
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  14. chiladd

    chiladd Member+

    Mar 21, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Fire said no to monterrey , they kept changing the deal. The lesser amount was also offered to the Fire .

    Its only a better deal on the surface , Monterrey will have a massive hand in the future transfer pot. Pizzaro has been open in the process he wants you be sold to Europe if the opportunity arrives . If that's after one year in MLS that's a big risk.

    Most of the transfer fee paid for him won't be recouped. Along with his salary youre looking at potentially 14 or so million for a season.

    Sorry Pizzaro is not worth that. But he didn't turn down the Fire .

    I didn't hear this on Twitter or through a fire staffer but a friend who works at MLS NY offices.



     
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  15. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I like this version of what transpired much better than my usual Fire dark thoughts. And, FWIW, I agree: Pizzaro isn't worth ~$14M for one year. Not even close. Way too risky of a deal. That said, I expect Pizzaro to have a stellar season.
     
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  16. N1ckels5

    N1ckels5 Member

    Oct 26, 2011
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    His 2 goals and 3 assists in his last 23 games excites you? If this guy was any other nationality no one would want him let alone at a dp status.
     
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  17. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    He's a CDM, no?
     
  18. TyrusRose

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    chicago fire
    North Korea
    Jun 17, 2019
    Come on, if people are going to go crazy about Pizarro, you need to know the basics of him. Pizarro is a #10. No chance he could play CDM
     
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  19. N1ckels5

    N1ckels5 Member

    Oct 26, 2011
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    No, like tyrus said he’s a 10 who can play as a winger. I don’t think people realize how often this guy disappears during games.
     
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  20. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Have we signed:

    A left wing
    A CAM
    A better CD
    A starting RB
    A star DP
    Yet?

    No, okay I will check back later.
     
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  21. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    No, but the Fire will compete in a lot of games while still failing to make the playoffs. Isn't that enough?
     
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  22. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I readily profess complete ignorance of all these guys playing in other countries. Confused Pizzaro w/a CDM we were looking at (Spanish surnames). As to Pizarro's production, that's a big red flag for a #10/winger.
     
  23. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I do kinda think MLS with its "don't spend too much on defense" philosophy throughout the league will be the perfect place for him though.

    He does seem like kind of a diva though, so he might also turn out to be a spectacular bust. Time will tell. Miami's roster still looks like it needs some holes filled.
     
  24. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    Aliseda is very two-footed, that's nice to see. Neither Ljubicic or Aliseda is an earth-shattering addition, but they both appear to be decent enough players who fill obvious holes. I hope the Boris Sekulic thing can still happen.

    I think the biggest item on my wish list from there would be an experienced MLS midfielder who can play one of the #8 spots. Go find that and a 3rd good CB you can start to squint and see a winning team here. Still very much missing a talisman though.
     
  25. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Compete? Just showing up is technically competing.
    Failing to make the playoffs is not only not good enough, but completely unacceptable.
     
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