MLS is Back Tournament, The Bubble, and The Virus

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  1. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    They are testing and are getting some positive test results too. It's just seems that MLS cases are way more.
     
  2. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One team is bad. The rest are only one person so far. That’s not bad.
     
  3. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    @jaykoz3 perhaps a "round one games" PBP thread is in order?
     
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  4. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, I can think of two reasons:

    1. It's not really a "bubble," which implies something air tight. Not a sieve, either, of course, because serious precautions are being taken. But the players do encounter people in Orlando who e it's outside of that bubble. There's always going to be some risk.

    2. Some teams have only recently arrived, and I have to think it's possible that a handful of players/staff might have been exposed immediately before traveling to Florida. They could have passed an initial screening, then tested positive a couple of days later.
     
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  5. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll cobble something together later tonight or tomorrow night after work.
     
  6. Doogh

    Doogh Member+

    Oct 5, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #631 Doogh, Jul 5, 2020
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    This is more assuring and convincing for me than the alarmists who keep telling us to cancel the tournament after a few positives.

    By contrast Bundesliga and EPL had similar numbers, if not more going into restarting play.
     
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  7. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As one of those "alarmists" you're leaving out one of the reasons I think they shouldn't be having this tournament right now. The image of the league playing a game while almost literally down the street* there are hospitals filling up with COVID patients is not a good one for the league. Do we really think that by August 12th that Florida won't be in the situation that Arizona and Houston are in right now, where they're having to make quality of care decisions for patients due to a lack of resources? Even if MLS isn't taking any resources from the local community, its not a great look to have them playing and potentially exposing local workers during such a crisis.

    *I am, sadly, quite familiar with the hospital just down I-4 from WDW in Dr. Phillips as that's where my mother-in-law spent far too much time in her unsuccessful battle against lymphoma.
     
  8. Doogh

    Doogh Member+

    Oct 5, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Honestly, there were plenty of better locations (Utah, anyone?) that would've been better suited for the tournament. Unfortunately, when MLS first announced it, Florida cases weren't as bad as now. There's no turning back from everything being finalized.

    Fauci even said that sports can come back if leagues are in a bubble, he even praised NBA campus-like return.
     
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  9. WheezingUSASupport

    Dortmund
    United States
    Aug 28, 2017
    If those local workers are working in the MLS bubble then isn’t that a far less exposing situation than what they’d be facing outside?

    Most of these players will also be in a less risky environment than their own market. The standards are much more strict even though the situation around them isn’t.

    By August 12th the tournament is over, but yes if things get worse they can get worse fast.

    On a separate topic, does anyone know when regular season games are planned to be scheduled once teams return to their respective markets?
     
  10. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure there is.

    "MLS has re-evaluated the current conditions in Florida and while we are grateful to our partners at ESPN, Disney, and Marriott and all the work their people put in to make this tournament happen, the situation has changed in Central Florida since we made the decision to play there. We don't wish to be a burden on a region that's currently undergoing a major struggle against this disease, and we want all of the people who working on this tournament to focus on keeping themselves and their families healthy. Because of that we are postponing the MLS Is Back Tournament until such time that it makes sense to play it".

    Done.

    Would it cost a bunch of money? Yeah. If they were smart they bought insurance and had backup plans. Is it the right thing to do? Also yes.
     
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  11. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was off a day, the final is August 11th, not August 12th.
     
  12. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  13. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  14. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  15. nfitz

    nfitz Member

    Aug 20, 2007
    Toronto
    It looks like they aren't trying to transport Toronto FC again until Monday.

     
  16. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Uh-oh. Another team in trouble. Nashville SC has had 5 players test positive. One upon arrival and 4 since.

     
  17. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    I even have a dvr recording set for this game...
     
  18. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But, you know, we're alarmist for pointing out that another team going through what Dallas is going through (like, apparently, Nashville is) before games even start and before all teams arrive is a good indicator this tournament might not go off as planned.
     
  19. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rapids just sent out an official notification they are rescheduled for Tuesday. Their first game is Sunday.
     
  20. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    So they're going to violate the 1 week quarantine rule by playing?
     
  21. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    So, is the NBA going to somehow avoid these types of issues?
     
  22. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The good news is that even now it would be an “easy” fix. Drop Nashville and Dallas, move a team from A to B. It would be cross division games, but they can account for that. The bigger issue is that it sounds like they aren’t maintaining protocols and bringing food to isolated players...
     
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  23. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One thing that is probably better for the NBA's logistics is that everybody is scheduled to arrive three weeks before games. So if players bring the virus from their cities (which is the cause of most, if not all, of the problems in MLS), they have some buffer of time to deal with it.
     
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  24. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Article about how ESPN plans to try new things during the broadcasts:

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/soccer/story/2020-07-05/coronavirus-mls-tv-coverage

     
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  25. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Grant Wahl has a reality check for some of you doomsayers.

     
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