PBP: 2020 House and Senate Elections (Maybe even State level)

Discussion in 'Elections' started by ceezmad, May 16, 2019.

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Will Congress stay divided after the 2020 election

Poll closed Nov 6, 2020.
  1. Yes, different parties will control each chamber.

    17 vote(s)
    45.9%
  2. No, Republicans will keep the Senate and retake the House of Reps.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. No, Democrats will keep the House of Reps and retake the Senate.

    18 vote(s)
    48.6%
  4. No, a great 3rd party take over of Congrees will happen.

    2 vote(s)
    5.4%
  1. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's a lot of crazy in GOP females, tbh..
     
  2. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good presentation of the the new Cabinet nominees. Biden is really comfortable in the role, calm, funny, reassuring.
     
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  3. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    read the whole thing

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/democracy-and-accountability

    But here's the key, for me.

    "Quite simply, everything that happens during the first two years of the Biden administration must be planned and organized through the prism and organizing principle of the argument Democrats will make to voters in the 2022 midterm election."

    I think Obama had 2 significant weaknesses, and this was one of them. I hope that Biden, being a creature of DC for well nigh half a century, will have creating a platform for the 2022 midterms in the front of his brain. It wouldn't hurt if it were on the sides and in the back too.
     
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  4. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
  5. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I definitely agree with you about that. What was the other weakness?

    (Foreign policy for me).
     
  6. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Speaking of latter, did Donald Trump ever face a difficult foreign policy issue? He didn't make major mistakes that i saw (aside from perhaps tearing up the Iran treaty) but I can't recall him facing a major decision either.
     
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  7. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank God, no.

    His diplomacy was really, really bad. The guy violated so many norms and strained so many relationships. More than foreign policy, Trump's insanely bad diplomacy will be his real legacy on international relations.
     
  8. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pulling out of the TPP was dumb. But yeah, most of his stupidity was in the military/nat security realm.
     
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  9. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Yeah. NATO.

    Annexation of a portion of Ukraine happened under his watch.
     
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  10. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good point. I truly hope that will be the case. I get a sense as well that the Biden team is much more coherent and cohesive than Obama's first cabinet. Some of those guys have a ton of experience and have been through the process. I am particularly pleased that the CoS is Ron Klain, who is a smarter, more strategic than Rahm in 09 (He was a disaster). Klain knows what is at stake and surely has 2022 in mind as well. The new DNC chairperson will be important as well.
     
  11. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wasn't thinking about policy, I was thinking about his orientation toward the job.

    He was really slow to realize just how nihilistic McConnell and the Tea Party were.
    Climate change!
    Jamie Harrison is throwing his hat into the ring.

    He's charismatic and I think has the background to appeal to all factions of the party. But I don't really KNOW alot about the man.
     
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  12. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fair, and I think you're right about that.
     
  13. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I heard about Jamie H for DNC. Not totally convinced. I would have preferred a proven state leader like Ben Wikler who is doing a terrific job in Wi (i think he may want to run for Senate in 22 though) or a Susan Swecker, the chairwoman or the Democratic party in Va. She has turned the party in a juggernaut in the Commonwealth.
     
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  14. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Crimea was annexed under Obama and Donbass is still technically part of Ukraine. It's just occupied by soldiers that are totally not Russian.
     
  15. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Oh, Jesus my timeline is off! I guess the thing was that the time to really put it to the Russians after pulling that stunt was when Trump won. Obama was tightening the screws, and then Trump let off most all the pressure.
     
  16. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. Germerica

    Germerica Member+

    May 2, 2012
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    All going to come down to turnout.
     
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  18. ASU55RR

    ASU55RR Member+

    Jul 31, 2004
    Brooklyn, NY/Brno,CZ
    Club:
    FC Zbrojovka Brno
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    Insanely close race still being counted in Iowa.

     
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  19. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is a lot of Republican women flipping districts.

    We do need more women in government, hopefully they did not flip only democratic women, but also some democrat males.
     
  20. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. ASU55RR

    ASU55RR Member+

    Jul 31, 2004
    Brooklyn, NY/Brno,CZ
    Club:
    FC Zbrojovka Brno
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    A similarly close race in upstate NY. I suppose both of these races will be in litigation until almost the midterms.

     
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  22. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would be great if the Dems could pick up those two seats.
     
  23. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

    Apr 9, 2009
    Samma Weltmeister!
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #writeinTrump!
     
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  24. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The trade war with China seems to me like a major mistake that could have long term repercussions. And, does pulling out of the Paris Climate Accord count as a foreign policy issue?
     
  25. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All of them? He screwed up the US's relationship with our NATO allies, he pulled out of Syria and left our Kurdish allies hanging in the wind, the assassination of the Iranian Guard commander pretty much ended whatever influence we had in Iraq and left our Kurdish allies in Iraq hanging in the wind, the tearing up of NAFTA only to make extremely minor changes and rebrand it to USMCA just so he could claim a win when the only wins were because Pelosi forced him to include things, the complete bungling of the pandemic response not only on the domestic front, but completely dropping the ball on the US's traditional leadership roll in leading the global response to crises, etc, etc.

    The amount of damage he did to the US's reputation internationally is huge and I'm not sure it is something the US will ever recover from.. Not that I want the US to return to the position it held previously, but it would be nice if the US at least had a voice in world events and Trump pretty much killed that and did it at a time when the world needed a strong unifying voice to respond to a global crisis.
     
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