2020 Election: Too much, but not enough

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  1. ArsenalMetro

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    It pushes the answer back so far that it won't affect election day votes. The Judiciary Committee vote is Oct. 22, the full Senate vote will probably be a weekish later. By then, half the country has voted, so whatever he says doesn't really matter.

    If she somehow gets voted down, Biden takes the high road and says "obviously we won't expand the court." If she gets confirmed, Biden says "Republicans have packed the Supreme Court and endangered its legitimacy; we'll work to ensure that the American people continue to believe in an independent judiciary by shaping the court to reflect the will of the people," or something to that effect.
     
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  2. Matrim55

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    (Except either way the court should be expanded)
     
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  3. soccernutter

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    Not just SCOTUS, but down the line as well.
     
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  4. The Jitty Slitter

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    It seems in terms of the stalls being set out, the likes of Sasse hope to succeed as throwback Reaganites

    Cruz, Rubio and Nikki Haley are positioning to "inherit" Trumpism, but with an air of competence.

    Don Jr sees it more as a direct mafia succession plan

    Then you have Pompeo who sees the US as some kind of fascist theocracy, and of course Cotton who wants some kind of military dictatorship :ROFLMAO:

    Then you have wildcard white nationalists like Tucker :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
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  5. The Jitty Slitter

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    Mango took the bait as well.
     
  6. Capt.Tsubasa

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    What do y'all think the chances are that the Republican Party might split?
     
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  7. celito

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    As if we need to know what he is going to say. It's pretty obvious.
     
  8. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

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    Someone stole my Biden/Harris signs last night.

    me: called the local Dem party...they’re getting me replacements

    Also me: hello tractor supply? I’m gonna need an electric fence that goes to 11.
     
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  9. Justin O

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    Don't laugh. Seriously.
     
  10. Justin O

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    One of the things I'll be looking at is whether or not there remains a high degree of correlation among states' results. Correct me if I'm wrong, and I could be, but for the last three presidential elections the swing states have almost entirely broken for one candidate or the other. It would completely change the electoral dynamic (in Biden's favor) if the swing states move more independently of one another. Is there any reason to think this is more likely this year than recent history suggests? If Biden loses PA, is there reason to believe TX is still in play?
     
  11. Funkfoot

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    There was a local story that mentioned people starting arriving to vote early at 3:00 AM. I think we can stop worrying about whether people will vote in a pandemic.
     
  12. ArsenalMetro

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    0%.

    They might have internal divisions, but they all know that a formal split renders them powerless.
     
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  13. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    If you didn't know....you are warned...

     
  14. The Jitty Slitter

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    Classic Murdoch crap

    I do wonder to what extent Fox will continue to humour trump when he is out of office. I think his star will drop considerably
     
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  15. dapip

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    Why would the GOP nominate a toxic figure after the embarrassment they’re going to suffer?

    Why would he actually run knowing he has no chance and that it’s likely that more dirty secrets will come out in the next few years ?

    And more importantly, would he have enough cognitive abilities to present a credible image?
     
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  16. charlie15

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    Actually, Trump will be the clear favorite if he loses and decides to run in 2024. The GOP base will overwhelmingly vote for him in a primary. It is not like the GOP "elite/establishment" will be able to stop him. If he decides not to run, he will still be the kingmaker. Bottom line, the GOP is Trump party.
     
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  17. Deadtigers

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    Of course he did. Narcissist do as Narcissist does.
     
  18. stanger

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    I don’t think so.

    When Trump loses, he becomes a “loser” and we all know his base doesn’t like losers. [emoji23]

    Seriously, with the several groups of Republicans actively working against his re-election, it’s a stretch to think he will have any control. Influence maybe, but not control.
     
  19. ArsenalMetro

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    Odds that he survives until 2024 are well below 50% as far as I'm concerned.

    Also, who is still giving Steve Bannon a platform? Shouldn't he be in prison?
     
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  20. stanger

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    On a separate note, my first effort voting absentee went very smoothly. I was getting a bit concerned because I dropped off my ballot last Saturday at the BoE and although I had signed up for text updates, I had not heard anything.

    Until today.

    All voting members of my house received this text within a few seconds of each other.

    IMG_1891.JPG

    Easy-peasey
     
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  21. soccernutter

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    What do you mean by "split?" Do you mean form 2 parties? If so, not a chance. If you mean form factions, we already saw that in 2010.

    He could either run to get the GOP nomination, or he could run as an independent. I'd rather the latter.

    Are you kidding? With all the complaints about a stolen election and fake ballots and voter fraud, no way he thinks he can't win. He is way to narcissistic.

    He probably wouldn't care.

    That depends on a few things. Such as how resoundingly they get beat in 2020, and I'm not just talking about the top of the ticket (this a big umbrella idea). It also will matter if Individual One becomes either state or federally indicted. It also will matter what internal decisions the GOP take regarding the future of the party.
     
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  22. superdave

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    You're probably right, but there's a real chance he's going to say he would have won except the China virus tanked the economy, or he would have won except for vote fraud.

    Of course, if he's in prison like he should be, he can't really have rallies.
     
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  23. xtomx

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    Even more importantly, can he run for president from a prison cell? [emoji6]
     
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  24. xtomx

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    So, you are now "officially" part of the deep, deep state, voter fraud conspiracy and the (second*) biggest crime in American political history?!? [emoji14]

    Welcome to the club, comrade @stanger! [emoji106]




    *next to the "spying" on the Trump campaign, of course. Apparently, both Obama and Biden should be indicted.
     
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  25. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    I disagree. I think you guys tend to minimize how much support Trump is getting from the GOP base. Unless a candidate is willing to out-trump Trump, he will be the kingmaker in the GOP for years to come. The only way that will not happen is if he goes to jail ( perfectly fine with me).
     
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