2020 Election: Too much, but not enough

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  1. Dr. Wankler

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    I didn't know her age either: so I was thinking Vassar if she was born about 1960, Sarah Lawrence in the next decade, or Oberlin if she was born after 1980.

    That's how NYC Meritocrats approach to guaranteeing that their kid would also be meritorious evolved, for the most part.
     
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  2. ArsenalMetro

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    Sarah Lawrence is such a weird school. I went to Colgate and looked almost exclusively at small liberal arts schools in the Northeast, but Sarah Lawrence never even popped up on my radar.

    Must be because I'm from upstate and not a part of the NYC elite crowd.
     
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  3. The Jitty Slitter

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    Who needs the Russians when you have Facebook destroying traffic to investigative news Orgs while pumping Shapiro etc

    Thread on targeting of mother jones

     
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  4. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    It's my opinion that in 20 years, Utah, Montana, and Alaska are swing states, with Idaho acting as the "new Georgia," while NM/AZ/NV/CO as locked up as CA/OR/WA/HI are today.

    In twenty years, the Pacific and Mountain West are likely to gain another 10-20 electoral votes, most likely at the expense of the rust-red Midwest. It's an easy trade; lose Minnesota and Wisconsin, gain Arizona and Utah.
     
  5. charlie15

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    John Kelly, Profile in Courage......NOT.

    Former White House chief of staff John Kelly has told friends that President Trump “is the most flawed person” he’s ever known, CNN reports.
    Said Kelly: “The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it’s more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life.”
     
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  6. American Brummie

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    Frankly, I was horrified to learned that I'm two years older.
     
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  8. ElJefe

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    Man, if I had known all this 35 years ago, I never would've bothered with the large southwestern public university that I attended.
     
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  9. Paul Berry

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    Wow nepotism in the private sector!!!

    Let's hope it doesn't spread to politics, eh?
     
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  10. ElJefe

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    Wait 'til you find out about Silicon Valley!
     
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  11. Boandlkramer

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    Samma Weltmeister!
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  12. The Jitty Slitter

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  13. The Jitty Slitter

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  14. soccernutter

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    The Rubin Report popped up for me so I skimmed though his post-debate analysis. His take was that Individual One said he doesn't knew that that conspiracy is, and that should have been good enough for Guthrie and good enough for the rest of us. Two idiots.
     
  15. charlie15

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    Tim Miller is really smart and talented. I doubt there is a place for him in the GOP anymore and I hope he will switch to the D team.
     
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  16. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Was she? I must have missed that bit. It seemed more like she was trying to think of a joke and the best she could come up was a comment about 'fly away from this subject', or whatever, which wasn't particularly funny.

    It just looked rather manufactured which, tbh, it was on Maddows part. I thought this was a better, (and funnier), comeback in 2016.



    Like I say, I don't think that will change anyone's mind one way or the other.
     
  17. dapip

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    Michigan rules changed back:




    Let people know that they need to send those ballots ASAP.
     
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  18. charlie15

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  19. soccernutter

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    My take was that Harris thought it was a funny moment, and was aware of the social media about it, but knew better than to say anything other than something witty. But she just couldn't think of anything off the top of her head, so she wanted to move on without being mean/bossy.
     
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  20. soccernutter

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    The Blue Machines is in full effect. Every Dem will get about 38 emails a day about this change. Plus calls. Plus texts. Plus mailers. The people will know.
     
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  21. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Yeah, fair enough. Like I say, things look slightly different to different people.

    To a British perspective I'd think saying something self deprecating and witty was the way to go but, like I say, we're British :D
     
  22. soccernutter

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    I saw a picture of her once. 1973 is about right. I figured she was mid to upper 40s.
     
  23. soccernutter

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  24. charlie15

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    #4774 charlie15, Oct 16, 2020
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    This race baiter son of a bitch is backtracking....... Osoff is hitting him over this already.

     
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  25. superdave

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    https://www.vox.com/2020/10/15/21518776/joe-biden-2020-abc-town-hall-donald-trump

    I found this article interesting. In particular, Klein describes why Team Obama didn't convert into Team Biden. Short version, Biden didn't act like chief executive material. He ran sloppy meetings, for example. He wasn't (isn't) disciplined.

    But Klein says that THIS is the moment where we need Biden. It's similar to the poster here (Kazuma?) who says electing Biden is like calling up your dad for help. Klein talks about Maslow's hierarchy of needs and makes an analogy to politics. Let me quote it, because it's so clear.

    "Over the past four years, we’ve slipped far, far down the hierarchy of political needs. The question isn’t whether the president is a policy genius, a generational orator, a historic legislative tactician, or a masterful manager. It’s whether he’s a white supremacist. Whether he’s a conspiracy theorist. Whether he’s a liar. Whether he’s extorting foreign governments to investigate domestic rivals. Whether he is a Covid-19 superspreader."

    Klein is making an argument I've been making here: yes, Trump's policies have been horrific, but his assault on our system of government has been catastrophic. Biden is kind of perfect in this moment, because he can serve 4 years while US democracy is in an assisted living facility undergoing rehab. Let the next generation pick up the policy torch.

    In the really, really long run, I predict historians will also talk about how the Trump Era caused not a 4 year, but an 8 year, timeout in terms of the US meeting new challenges. We're so damaged right now we can't go to work. We need rehab to get us back in working shape.
     
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