2020/21 Hot Seat

Discussion in 'Women's College' started by Chris Mahr, Aug 13, 2020.

  1. Lord Kril

    Lord Kril Member

    Pittsburgh Riverhounds
    Jul 3, 2018
    Unless this has been changed-----

    15.5.1 Counters. A student-athlete shall be a counter and included in the maximum awards limitations set forth in this bylaw under the following conditions:

    15.5.1.6 Aid After Departure of Head Coach -- A student-athlete who receives athletically related institutional financial aid in subsequent academic years after the departure of a head coach from the institution is not a counter, provided:

    (a) The student-athlete participated in the applicable sport and received athletically related institutional financial aid during the coach's tenure at the institution; and

    (b) The student-athlete does not participate in the applicable sport during subsequent academic years at the institution.

    15.5.1.6.1 Subsequent Participation. If the student-athlete subsequently participates in the applicable sport at the institution, the student-athlete shall become a counter for all years during which athletically related institutional aid was received.
     
  2. ytrs

    ytrs Member

    Jan 24, 2018
    I am aware of this. My point is accurate. A coach cannot drop a kid on scholarhip without penalty. If the kid wants to keep their scholarship at the SEC school they can, and they still count against the program.
     
  3. ytrs

    ytrs Member

    Jan 24, 2018
    Reading this though, the athlete would have participated with the new coach in almost every scenario before they were cut. So that rule would not apply.
     
  4. SmallSchoolGaffer

    SmallSchoolGaffer New Member

    May 24, 2021
    A little inside soccer for some of you guys. A number of programs write the 4-year scholarships as the following for players that may not be high impact:

    year 1: $xxxxx.xx - let’s say $10,000.00
    Year 2: $0
    Year 3: $0
    year 4: $0
    Year 5: $0

    They then renew them yearly as any other scholarship would, or don’t. There’s no legislation against increasing or renewing, so this is done for a kid not receiving as much aid or maybe a kid you’re taking a chance on. Obviously not doing it for a national team pool kid, or kid you know will be dynamite, but for a mid/bottom roster kid, it’s an easy way around a 4-year scholarship. If your program is good enough, kids will still want to come.

    Not saying I agree with this, or here to get into an argument whether or not it happens, because it does happen at at least a few P5 programs i am familiar with.
     
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  5. winwinchick

    winwinchick Member

    Celta Vigo
    United States
    Nov 13, 2019
    Is it true that the University of Cincinnati might be looking to add Paul Riley to the coaching staff? All kinds of rumors out there. When are we going to get a new Hot Seat list?
     
  6. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    Doubt it. Rumors probably spread by Twitter.
     
  7. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, ytrs, the reference to the athlete having participated during the coach’s tenure is not to the new coach’s tenure but rather during the departed coach’s tenure. Thus what you originally said is exactly correct.
     
  8. Enzo the Prince

    Sep 9, 2007
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Although there are probably some ADs who would hire him, a basic background check even by soccer ignorant people would put the kibosh on it. There's not a board of regents or university chancellor who would approve it. He's done coaching, I would hope.
     
  9. SoccerTrustee

    SoccerTrustee Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Winwinchick, I get your joke (that others didn't). Riley would be a good fit with his background with the staff there at Cincinnati.
     
  10. Lord Kril

    Lord Kril Member

    Pittsburgh Riverhounds
    Jul 3, 2018

    Not true-subsequent academic years. If hired in December, player would have the spring to prove themselves otherwise not be a counter or on the team the following fal
     
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  11. MrsKuhl

    MrsKuhl New Member

    Manchester City
    United States
    Nov 17, 2019
    Is it fair to assume that a coach who's contract expires at the end of this year and has not yet been renewed / extended will probably not be renewed / extended without a winning season, or at least a better season than the last pre-COVID?
     
  12. Collegewhispers

    Oct 27, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew

    Depends how much the admins care but if the contract has ran down to the final year, and the year isn’t going well, it’s definitely a possibility the coach won’t be renewed.
     
  13. Eddie K

    Eddie K Member+

    May 5, 2007
    I think this may be the situation at UMD. Complete guess but I'd bet Ray retires by the holiday break and Shannon Cirovski is brought back to coach.
     
  14. Osotruck

    Osotruck New Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Oct 5, 2021
     
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  15. staffstaff

    staffstaff Member

    Sep 12, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Off the top of my head I think some of these programs are warm at a minimum. A few of these programs seem to have individuals that don’t have to worry about performance as they have struggled for 10 or more seasons. I don't know the contracts of any of these coaches so I don't know how many more years some have remaining. Still more season to go, could improve chances of making it to next season.

    University of Kentucky
    University of Rhode Island
    University of Maryland
    University of Delaware
    University of Maine
    IUPUI
    Villanova University
    University of Miami
    University of Akron
    Idaho State
    Indiana State
    Kansas State
    Morehead State
    College of Charleston
    Lafayette College
    Wagner College

    Purdue University Fort Wayne
    St. Bonaventure University
    Morehead State

    Interim-
    Cal State Northridge
    Tulsa
    LA Tech
    Pacific
    others?
     
  16. Nacional Tijuana

    Nacional Tijuana BigSoccer Supporter

    May 6, 2003
    San Diego, Calif.
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are Lafayette and Wagner especially bad off, or why the italics?
     
  17. DeathSlayerWenger

    Not Arsenal
    France
    May 20, 2021

    Potentially add Stanford to the list the rumor is they are trying to find enough funds to make a splash and tempt Citowicki away from Montana. Supposed sticking point is his request for an unlimited personal meal plan at the campus cafeteria, and the mascot being changed from a cardinal to a blue and yellow parrot. More to come.
     
  18. staffstaff

    staffstaff Member

    Sep 12, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Yeah, they do seem pretty bad off, however I am not sure why some ended up with the italics, it just happened.
     
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  19. SoccerTrustee

    SoccerTrustee Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    That list was stupid. Only ones I see having a chance at a coach being let go in the next 1-2 years are Miami and Maryland. Kentucky should be on that list but Curry is on a contract extension as has been stated on here multiple times. No reason to have mentioned any of the others.
     
  20. Collegewhispers

    Oct 27, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Akron is in final year of contract and under a lot of pressure.
     
  21. staffstaff

    staffstaff Member

    Sep 12, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I post these lists and they tend to be pretty accurate every year, but it’s not because I’m
    doing anymore than stating the obvious in many cases, or happen to know administrators at various universities. Perhaps stupid, but IMO all of these schools are worthy of a discussion, and we all have opinions, that’s why we have sites like Big Soccer to discuss and debate.
     
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  22. PlaySimple

    PlaySimple Member

    Sep 22, 2016
    Chicagoland
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Funny but the Stanford mascot is actually a tree and not a bird. ;)
     
  23. DeathSlayerWenger

    Not Arsenal
    France
    May 20, 2021
    Maybe they could put the bird in the tree?

    If LA Tech opens their search up they may need to look at Gore from NSU. Mind you the LA Tech girls would have to adjust their line of sight as they will no longer need to look up when their coach is talking.

    I will keep you posted how the meal plan negotiations are going between Citowicki and the cardinals.
     
  24. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cardinal, not cardinals. It is a color.
     
  25. DeathSlayerWenger

    Not Arsenal
    France
    May 20, 2021
    Citowicki is negotiating that alteration too.
     

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