He's looking right at it. It's a red card, but you can plausibly justify a yellow. But nothing? No foul? No card? I get that UEFA want low key refereeing, but if you're going to go down the route that they seem to be advocating just change the laws of the game to allow a team to replace a red carded player.
Must have been a big drop in standards though. Several Welsh and N.Ireland referees have been at previous World Cups! (Yes I know a prominent FIFA VP was from N. Ireland but...) PH
Please tell me you find this tackle a clear RC. From the Armenia - Estonia game handled by David Coote: https://streamable.com/6qfful
Yes. And I think that still needs to be red at any level below the professional/international game. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised if UEFA is okay with (or even wants) a yellow here. And therein lies the problem. People see this and they emulate it. And then when it gets red in your local amateur game, they point to it only being a yellow here. And more players attempt tackle like this at all levels. And, eventually, you'll see more horrific injuries again. I think you'll hear a defense of yellow because of point of contact, mode of contact, contact with the ball, etc. There are factors that can justify a yellow card if we just get into the "check-the-box" mode of refereeing where we go through a laundry list of factors and over analyze. But at a base level, this tackle had excessive force. And if this tackle didn't actually endanger the safety of the opponent, it was only by sheer dumb luck. It was completely unnecessary and I think a red card is the best option at all levels.
Thank you! I completely agree. Decisions like this (if UEFA agrees) set really bad precedent for us at lower levels.
Any time I see a player launch himself/herself like this, I'm on red alert (no pun intended). That kind of launch definitely can get into the excessive force part of this pretty quickly.
Both an Irish and a Welsh (as well as an additional Scottish) referee are working the UEL second qualifying round, so fear not @Pierre Head! Frappart is also working again (though a Swedish club against a Gibraltarian might not be super competitive). @Mikael_Referee , the Faroese referee we noted, a Hovdanum, "only" has Riga versus a San Marino club, though he does have former World Cup referee Rune Pedersen assessing... any idea what to make of that? Anyway, lots of assignments, as has been noted. But the UCL third round qualifying ones, with some familiar names, are: Dynamo Kyiv : AZ - GRINFEELD (ISR) PAOK : Benfica - BRYCH (GER) Gent : Rapid Wien - EKBERG (SWE) Omonia : Red Star - KAVANAGH (ENG) Maccabi Tel Aviv : Dynamo Brest - MASSA (ITA) Ferencvarosi : GNK Dinamo - STIELER (GER) Qarabag : Molde - JOVANOVIC (SRB) Midtjylland : Young Boys - KABAKOV (BUL) Brych and Kavanagh are the names that stand out to me, but for different reasons. Brych because it's odd to see a former UCL Final Referee at this stage (though, perhaps understandable giving the clubs involved). Kavanagh because that's a possible signal that he is now England's #3 in Europe--then again, Marriner and Pawson both played around with matches at this level so maybe we're still in trial and error phase.
Indeed it is strange to see Brych... He's officiating the Greek cup final couple days before this - so why not if he's in the immediate area. Kavanagh's youth league final performance must have been well received I guess... He struggled in that game imo; but Rosetti and co. seem encouraged.
Unless this was already planned? I mean, if you're comfortable trying someone out on the Youth League Final, you've got to also be comfortable with a first leg qualifier here, right? One bad performance shouldn't break a referee's entire season, which is what that would have done if you deny an appointment at this stage (because then he's definitely not getting a group stage match).
I agree. For the most part Kavanagh has impressed - which his recent promotion to the 1st category validates.
Is the final two legs? Or is there another match for Brych? Reading elsewhere Kuipers is in Greece for the cup final. https://www.knvb.nl/nieuws/scheidsr.../61393/team-kuipers-leidt-griekse-bekerfinale
Just a minor point for clarification, this round of UCL qualifiers is still only a single match. It is only in the next round (Play-Offs) that we revert to the normal 2-leg format.
Interesting, I heard rumblings that Brych was getting the assignment. Thanks for the link. In that case disregard my previous theory...no idea why Brych was assigned to this round.
Tricky to say how important an observer Pedersen is nowadays - he has been switched out of his post at the NFF for Terje Hauge and Rosetti will trust different men than Collina did, also geographical considerations are important. But surely remarkable nonetheless. Frappart's performance in Malta - Latvia was quite poor by the way.
It's surely not a coincidence that Brych handled this exact game in 2018 and doing a very good job, both teams likely asked for him again. Also PAOK were very dissatisfied with Craig Pawson's handling of their match at this stage with Benfica last year, which probably gave them more bargaining power. To be honest I simply cannot believe Kavanagh's assignment, to say UEFA are dicing with death is quite the understatement. Of course, he has my best wishes!
I’d be interested in her performance. I couldn’t get home in time enough to record her match. And didn’t see any highlight package.
Did anyone watch Marseille-PSG yesterday? Sounds like it went completely off the rails, with a mass fight at the end of the game and Neymar alleging racial comments directed at him per the espnfc.com article I read.
Yes, it was not a pretty sight. To be honest, and this is not being "wise after the event", I never felt comfortable the whole game. Now, obviously I didn't expect it to finish with 12 Cautions and 5 Send-Offs, but from very early on it was simmering and seemed to just be just one incident away from a flashpoint. While there were no particularly significant "issues" as such, Brisard just never seemed in control. The level of dissent that was being tolerated for relatively innocuous things, and the number of times he allowed players to physically chase him demanding PKs, etc was typical of how things were being managed, and were just not what one would expect from a Referee of his experience. I would go so far as to say that if you watched this game without knowledge of the teams or Referee you would think that it was someone who had been promoted maybe a level or two above his "comfort zone". It just seemed too big a game for him, somehow, on this particular night. All together a very uncomfortable 90+ minutes, and while the players have to take responsibility for the debacle at the end, I do think the seeds were sewn much earlier by a very passive performance by a Referee who should know better.
Anthony Taylor assigned the UEFA Super cup. https://www.uefa.com/uefasupercup/n...0bb08-1000--taylor-to-referee-2020-super-cup/
Grinfeeld as Fourth is pretty notable. But apparently Israel just announced a major COVID-19 lockdown and the appointment is now in some doubt. So we'll see!
Any idea when the lockdown starts? Presumably UEFA think they can fly him out and back before it commences?
Looks like it got announced Sunday, so got to presume this appointment was considered prior to the knowledge of this announcement. https://apnews.com/af7e03891cdebdc9eb507094401b5146 So, who knows?! Lockdown starts this Friday, and the match is next Thursday, so flying for the match appears like it would require an exception to the lockdown.
Apparently that UEFA page has a typo? Everywhere else it's Grinfeld, not Grinfeeld Anyway, what a year for Taylor.