2019 WWC Referee Discussion [Rs]

Discussion in 'Referee' started by lil_one, Dec 3, 2018.

  1. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    Heard about the game and watching the replay now.

    When AR1 gives the initial offside on England’s 2nd goal the camera pans to her and she’s clearly wearing an earring/jewelry. Do lady refs have standards for that kind of thing?
     
  2. jasonakramer

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    Apr 27, 2016
  3. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
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    An early ignored SPA in the 10th minute. Now if feels like a World Cup knockout stage game.
     
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  4. djmtxref

    djmtxref Member

    Apr 8, 2013
    The French player looked annoyed by the play, but I don’t think she expected a card there.
     
  5. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
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    That was a really hard collision.
     
  6. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
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    Did the ball come off the attackers arm after the keeper hit it?
     
  7. jasonakramer

    jasonakramer Member

    Apr 27, 2016
    Looks like VAR has the same question
     
  8. jasonakramer

    jasonakramer Member

    Apr 27, 2016
    And Unkel isn't clear that that's what VAR is looking at. I don't see any angle clearly showing the ball coming off the hand/arm.
     
  9. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    Unkel seems to have totally missed the handling element in her comments.
     
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  10. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
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    The graphic in the corner said "No goal - foul". I think they have a separate graphic for "No goal - handling". So I'm guessing it was for a foul on the keeper instead of handling.

    From that perspective, I guess it's a classic "Player A got it first so player B is guilty for the collision". I'm with Unkel that I don't think it's clear and obvious.
     
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  11. jasonakramer

    jasonakramer Member

    Apr 27, 2016
    So there were three potential issues there: Foul on the GK, handling on attacker, and GK possession.
    Analysts didn't discuss what VAR decided was the issue. Great stuff all around.
     
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  12. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
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    That goal is never ruled out in the men's World Cup (unless the new handling law was involved), based on the high standard of VAR last year.
     
  13. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
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    Who announces what VAR is checking? Is it just assumed from context, or does the VAR room let the broadcast crew know why? If assumed, some tech guy might have chosen foul because that's what everyone was talking about even though handling to me seems to be the actual reason and valid one.
     
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  14. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    There's someone in the VAR room who sends out the information to broadcasters.
     
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  15. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
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    That's red...
     
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  16. SCV-Ref

    SCV-Ref Member

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    Feb 22, 2018
    I am so sick of players getting in the face of the referee. Just stop it.
     
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  17. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
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    Huh, FIFA says it was for a foul. That does not seem clear and obviously wrong to me.
     
  18. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
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    Hey refs: is that reviewable for possible red?
     
  19. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
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    Yes.
     
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  20. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    Is that a Fox graphic based on what they think happened, or something official? I think there is w laugh to reverseon handling, and thought that was the last clip the R looked at in the booth. (I think a reversal for a foul on runnin into the keeper would be wrong.)
     
  21. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
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    No that's a FIFA graphic that's entirely based on a technician with a computer/tablet in the VAR room. They have a various of selections that automatically generate what the VAR is looking at and what the on field decision is afterwards. It's automatically transmitted on screen and in stadium.
     
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  22. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
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    #1147 chad, Jun 23, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 23, 2019
    Thanks. I'm surprised it wasn't, then. We could all see that Marta got cleated! (not sure it was Marta, don't remember which Brazil player.)
     
  23. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
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    Part of VAR's mandate is to review all possible red card situations. For some reason, they decided that it wasn't clear and obviously wrong to just go yellow there.
     
  24. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    See your profile page. I don't want to put you on blast in public.
     
  25. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
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    Here's the video talking about it. The graphic stuff starts at 2:30.

     

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