2019 USL Attendance

Discussion in 'United Soccer Leagues' started by Macsen, Mar 25, 2019.

  1. Expansion Franchise

    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    There was an article in The Athletic last week (https://theathletic.com/1083944/201...hampionship-to-third-tier-league-one-by-2021/ - if you have a subscription -- I don't) that apparently explained how the contract with MLS lets USL place the teams in whatever level they want. Also of note, the MLS teams don't/didn't pay expansion fees.
     
  2. Macsen

    Macsen Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unbranded MLS-owned USL clubs should absolutely drop to USL-1.

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  3. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Thats a little gem of info- MLS-2 didn't pay expansion fees.
    Therefore, the USL can maybe say, drop to USL-1 and the no fees will continue
    Then, as I felt earlier, this clears the way for USL-C to bring on some more markets, ie:, more expansion fees, while keeping the USL-C of a reasonable /manageable size- in my mind 32 or less. Even if the MLS-2 teams drop, there is still work to be done in bringing all teams up in attendance, better stadium situations and lets not forget, the league is loosing Nashville as a market, most likely loosing SAC and STL and then also also an MLS team entering its AUSTIN market, so USL still has there work cut out , as second divisions and in this case, third divisions always will.
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    It looks like good money is on MLS in Charlotte, as well.
     
  5. Macsen

    Macsen Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nashville is nowhere near as big a loss as Cincinnati. Austin and Charlotte would be inconsequential.

    If the MLS-2 markets drop, then USL-C will pretty much be stable. The only remaining issues would be Tulsa, Charleston, Pittsburgh, and Charlotte (including it here since Charlotte is not a lock for MLS).
     
  6. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    I know Charleston has a long history, but maybe they too consider USL-1 ?
    Lots of close rivals in the east to cut travel expenses= (currently- Richmond, Greenville ,Chattanooga, Tormenta ,ORL B and if would be cool if ATL 2 joined the party..
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    I think most observers expect either a drop to L1 or "hiatus".
     
  8. Macsen

    Macsen Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The thought of Charleston going to USL-1 has occurred to me.

    And if MLS is considering pushing most to all of their MLS2 reserve clubs to USL-1, then ATL 2 will definitely be going with them. They're not an outlier like Tacoma, RGV, or Portland.

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  9. Macsen

    Macsen Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. Macsen

    Macsen Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]

    *goes back and looks at the NM vs Los Dos match*

    ...how?
     
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  11. patrick epps

    patrick epps New Member

    Memphis 901fc
    France
    Dec 3, 2018
    Memphis is no fluke. 901fc #defend Memphis
     
  12. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Back in the old days, when Seattle, Portland, Vancouver and Montreal were in USL... 6k was considered very good. Vancouver sat right around there for YEARS, Portland grew from around 5k up to 15k before joining MLS, Seattle was rarely ever there, but Montreal was doing 10k nearly the entire time they were in USL. Interestingly, Rochester was also a powerhouse, but things went south.

    Seeing the numbers that some of these clubs have done is really impressive. Obviously Sacramento has shown that they are ready for MLS. New Mexico would be such an amazing addition, but when it comes to TV, I'm not sure MLS is clamoring.
     
  13. Expansion Franchise

    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    Seattle would have been (literal) outlier here, as they were the only one of this group that played out in the suburbs.
     
  14. aleaguer

    aleaguer Member

    Feb 17, 2000
    Wichita, KS USA
    except for 2000-2007, when they played at uw and then what is now lumen field or whatever.
     
  15. Expansion Franchise

    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    Oof, I didn’t realize that. < 3,000 must have looked really empty.
     
  16. aleaguer

    aleaguer Member

    Feb 17, 2000
    Wichita, KS USA
    they got like 25k for the first game (first event ever at the stadium) but did not exactly pack them in after that.
     
  17. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Very cool.
    Is Des Moines ready to go USL-1 or USL-C? Longer season, more travel etc.
    Do you thing a jump in division brings a equal bump in attendence?
    The stadium looks good by the way, hope it happens.
     

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