2019 CONCACAF Gold Cup: Opponents Watch

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Sebsasour, Jun 15, 2019.

  1. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    Yeah, I don't know if it is the uniforms making it look that way or not, but I've thought Costa Rica has seemed bigger and faster all game.
     
  2. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There were so many empty seats in Costa Rica for their own match. Just a mini barometer for how serious our region of the world takes this competition, unfortunately.
     
  3. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    Also quite a few Nicaraguans living in CR, plus whatever randos from the other two teams happen to live there
     
  4. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Got the Copa going on.
     
  5. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    Group C tonight, and the first matches featuring sides of any relevance to us until the final (I still think this bracket setup is weird).

    This is where we find out if we'll be pressured at all in the knockout rounds.
     
  6. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #56 Sebsasour, Jun 17, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2019
    That's probably the most interesting group in the tournament. Honduras and Jamaica seem like the 2 best teams, but Curacao and El Salvador are good enough to beat them. Curacao are the defending Caribbean Champs, and El Salvador beat Jamaica to qualify for this tournament.

    I also don't imagine Honduras is happy about having to open this tournament on the road while everyone else gets to play Jamaica on a neutral field. If they lose at The Office tonight, which I think there's a high possibility of, they're going to have a ton of pressure on them to close out the group.

    Their last game is El Salvador in LA, and LA has far more Salvadorans than Hondurans
     
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  7. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    Yeah, I get that they're trying to spread games around, but it seems weird and unfair to have some other teams host some games. I'd say Honduras and Jamaica are pretty even on a neutral field, but if Jamaica is hosting, they have a decided advantage.
     
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  8. wrench

    wrench Member+

    May 12, 2007
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC

    Or nobody lives there anymore. They are all here.
     
  9. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Costa Ricans?

    Really? C'mon man.
     
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  10. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    i have a hard time seeing the usa dealing with the toughness and directness of honduras. i think they would beat us up and wear our defenders down mentally. pretty sad realization
     
  11. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    I tuned in just after Jamaica scored their first goal. I'd say Honduras had a little better of the play on average, but they're still down 0-2 at the half. The field is very bumpy as usual in Jamaica, so it's hard to comment on the technical quality of each team, but both look fast, physical, and well organized...which is enough to cause real trouble for the US if we play hesitantly and without conviction in physical challenges.
     
  12. 50/50 Ball

    50/50 Ball Member+

    Sep 6, 2006
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good entertainment value for sure. Jamaica's Turkish league forward has a brace, hopefully a good omen for Boyd.
     
  13. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    With Egg's cupcake roster and strange formations, I think that it is very possible the US does not make it to the Hex in WCQ. Several teams have improved.
     
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  14. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Both this teams look better than us when you consider our back four and our toilet paper DM's.

    And Pulisic will get the shit hacked out of him. We have nothing to counter.
     
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  15. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We will see facsimiles to Jamaica/Honduras in Trinidad/Panama. I'm willing to wait to see what WM/CP can do to drive this clunker.
     
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  16. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Panama might be the team we see twice. Possible we avoid one of these two teams. (also possible by losing, that too) but on paper, Panama is better than both of them.
     
  17. 50/50 Ball

    50/50 Ball Member+

    Sep 6, 2006
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/cs.html

    Costa Rica is a popular regional immigration destination because of its job opportunities and social programs. Almost 9% of the population is foreign-born, with Nicaraguans comprising nearly three-quarters of the foreign population. Many Nicaraguans who perform unskilled seasonal labor enter Costa Rica illegally or overstay their visas, which continues to be a source of tension. Less than 3% of Costa Rica's population lives abroad. The overwhelming majority of expatriates have settled in the United States after completing a university degree or in order to work in a highly skilled field.
     
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  18. wrench

    wrench Member+

    May 12, 2007
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Lighten up. It was sarcasm, partially. btw, my best friend is CR. Maybe the inside joke missed the mark.
     
  19. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Ticos are the one Central American team (well, other than Belize) we can play anywhere in the US without have to worry about it turning into a road game...
     
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  20. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    People are still pissy about playing them in Harrison two years ago.
     
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  21. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Only because it didn't snow. :)

    Seriously, we've really spread them around in WCQ...Portland, Kansas City, Salt Lake, Denver, Harrison, Columbus (semi-final round)...
     
  22. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Sadly I don't think we're getting another qualifier in Chicago until we get Fire SSS #2 after the awful showing in 2008 against Trinidad.
     
  23. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was at that one!

    "There's no snow on your island...so why are you called a Tobagan?"

    Was the Honduras match at Soldier Field before or after that one? (yeah, I was at that one too...a lone red shirt in a sea of blue)
     
  24. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I think that was after, actually, but I wasn't living here at the time. Kinda makes the "oh, there were ~20% Costa Rica fans in Harrison a lame excuse.

    Though I just watched highlights of that Costa Rica match in Harrison. Navas stood on his head, but what total disasters by Ream and Cameron on both goals. I'd forgotten about Cameron's fckup. And he wonders why he got benched.
     
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  25. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    Eh. We're talking about situations where the crowd is maybe only 70% USA fans. Unless we're playing Mexico in Texas or southern California, the stadium will still be a technical majority of home fans. Maybe our fans might not be as vocal, but that's usually the case when the home crowd includes a high proportion of casual fans, and the visitors are either diehards who travel or local ex-pats getting to watch their team in person for the only time in years.

    And really, I feel this is a lame excuse for any weak home performances. I've always said that the USMNT shouldn't be afraid to play anyone anywhere at home, whether its Mexico in Texas or Ireland in Massachusetts. There are home game benefits that aren't related to the spectators that remain as advantages. And if our guys can't handle the crowd being a somewhat larger percentage of away fans than usual, then maybe this is a different problem of the team being too mentally fragile. If they feel pressured because only 65% of the fans are in red, white, and blue in a home game, then how will they respond in an actual away game? That might go towards explaining how they failed to win a single match on the road in the last Hex.
     
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