Pre-match: 2019 CONCACAF Gold Cup Group Stage: USA vs Guyana

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  1. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    Ream is not only on the team but playing out of position. All the guys on the team that play in Big 4 leagues are going to play out of position! Incredible...

    That is the difference between Omar and Ream. Omar was discarded by a Liga MX team and Ream was playing serious minutes in the EPL.
     
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  2. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Thinks back to St. Vincent in St. Louis....

    ...don't get your hopes up on this point.
     
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  3. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Are you... using Dragon?
     
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  4. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    It is reported that Weah wanted to play with the U20s. But we have no idea if he was given any choice. The fact Sargent was cut from the roster has to lead to the conclusion Weah was not choosing between the two rosters. At best, Weah was choosing what Sargent, Robinson and CCV got and the U20 World Cup. Seeing how Sargent, Robinson, and CCV were not given much of a shot to unseat Zardez, Lovitz, or Omar; he chose wisely.
     
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  5. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Sorry. Voice to text. I’ve tried to clean it up
     
  6. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Well FWIW, the big difference between Sargent and Weah is that Sargent isn't in the need of a new club. Weah is/was. Above all else, the u-20 WC is a glorified scouting combine.
     
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  7. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Which team do you think is better? Francis u20 or Guyana?
     
  8. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

    United States
    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One at a time....there are so many egregious roster screwups by Beerholder it's best to attack them one at a time. It's ok about Ream though, we have Long....sad times.
     
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  9. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    It is not like that play was an isolated incident. That foul that wasnt called reminded me of the goal against Honduras two games earlier and the play where Ream saved the ball off the line in the 3rd place game against Panama in 2015... except against Trinidad he at least got the man.

    Gonzo had the game of his life vs Belgium but absolutely horrendous all last cycle. There is not a player on the team that was more responsible for costing us results in the Hex. Good thing he is back to provide veteran leadership and get beat by attackers.
     
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  10. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Cameron trying to force a pass late against Costa Rica is what put him to the bench.... at Honduras. Gonzo getting embarassed for their only goal and Cameron coming in and setting the defence is why people question Cameron staying on the bench for the last two games.

    Gonzo's mistake on the first goal at Costa Rica was worse than anything Brooks has ever done. Brooks got embarassed by quality, fast attacker, but Gonzo just didnt try with the game still tied.

    All of our defenders have made mistakes or just gotten beaten, but Gonzo was there consistently though last cycle. For some reason, some people want to make Alvarado, Brooks, and Cameron the scapegoats though.
     
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  11. Brock Hannsen

    Brock Hannsen Member+

    Feb 3, 2014
    Hartford, CT
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Let's eek out a 2-1 win over #177 Guyana.
     
  12. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    Not about just making them the scapegoats. It's impossible to look at Gonzo and Ream and defend their play. Simply put, everyone (Egg/USSF supporters and critics) know these two are not good players.

    If you can't argue that they are good players, but they are key pieces in the current squad (that you support), what else is there? Denigrating the competition, of course.

    If Brooks and Cameron messed up once, and Gonzo/Ream messed up once, then there is no difference between them, and the correct selections have been made (or, at the very least, you can't argue about it as they are all equally at fault once).
     
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  13. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Given what we have available, this will have to do. I'm not sure that lineup is terribly likely to win the tournament. Get out of the group, even in top spot--seems plausible (though Panama has given us fits recently in the GC). Get to the final--could be. Beat Mexico there? Would love to be wrong but I just don't see that at all.
     
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  14. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dude we won that game 6-1. I'd take that all day long v Guyana tonite.
     
  15. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    While we're discussing Gonzo, I feel I have to share this irrelevant observation:

    Omar Gonzalez is clearly Hollywood actor Adam Driver with slightly different facial hair.

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Must be for a role he's playing. :cautious:
     
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  16. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    They are getting better because they don't shrink from competition like Copa America.
     
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  17. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    And that game presaged our worst defensive performance in the Hex in decades and a missed WC....
     
  18. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Yup. On a combined blunder by Yedlin and Cameron.

    Great atmosphere in St. Louis that night, otherwise on a really surreal and sad day. St. Louis needs to get their SSS up and running soon because that city deserves more MNT games.
     
  19. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Respectfully, the one thing I’m really looking for tonight is that we are rock solid defensively.
     
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  20. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nah, Driver plays Kljestan in the movie about the MNT.

    [​IMG]
     
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  21. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do, because of hand issues. Sometimes it's absolutely wonderful, but sometimes it totally screws up on really simple stuff. And it sure is Hell hates homonyms. As well as confusing as and is, like it did in the last sentence.:)
     
  22. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    That's like me looking forward to the secondary of this upcoming Lions season. We might be a decent team. this year, but strong parts are going to have to overcome the weak ones.
     
  23. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Our defense needs to be a strong part of our game, particularly against a minnow.
     
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  24. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    Not with Cameron, Brooks, and Yedlin making all these huge mistakes last Hex, amirite!?!?
     
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  25. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Lots of denigrating. Every (center) defender we played last cycle struggled at times. Not sure why we would look to any of them for veteran leadership now. If Brooks and Cameron didnt have their injuries, we probably go to the WC.
     

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