2019/21 Takehiro Tomiyasu @ Bologna Football Club 1909 (ITA)

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  1. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    Then if Japanese players play in e.g Belgium, Portugal and Switzerland, etc. first before potentially moving to Serie A, this rule will not affect them right?
     
  2. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not unless they acquire EU nationality somewhere along the way.

    A big factor is that about half of the South American players qualify for EU citizenship (e.g. Portugal, Italy) through ancestry so are not affected by the Serie A quota.
     
  3. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    No, the rule does not change. It's not about "where you play" but your passport.

    Literally none of this is true.
     
  4. Interiores

    Interiores Member

    East Tokyo United
    Japan
    Jun 3, 2016
    Japan
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Bologna was only poor until Mihajlovic took the helm right?
     
  5. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    Exactly. For 90% of the season whoever (except here maybe) called Chievo Verona, Frosinone and Bologna as the future relegated teams.
    Than Mihajlovic arrived and save their ass with I can't remember how many victories in a row.
    As whoever has a few competence in Italian football known, both Fiorentina and Udinese are stronger teams with worldwide top players that played in their ranks before move to top clubs.
    Bologna the next season will play to avoid relegation while Fiorentina and Udinese will play in the middle of the chart maybe trying to reach a EL spot.
    If someone does not agree, simply wait for the next season and then we will see.
     
  6. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    2015-2016: Bologna 14th, Udinese 17th
    2016-2017: Bologna 15th, Udinese 13th
    2017-2018: Bologna, 15th, Udinese 14th
    2018-2019: Bologna, 10th, Udinese 12th

    Both will play again to escape relegation next season and I don't see anything comparable to "Hellas Verona". Udinese hasn't done anything since Di Natale days, they just pile up players on loan.
    As for Fiorentina, yes, they're a better team historically speaking, but Tomiyasu needs to play, that's what matters
     
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  7. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    aaand closing the thread again for a bit to avoid speculation.

    https://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/ser...-di-emigrare-tomiyasu-sta-riflettendo-1264341

    Bologna's AD today said something like "Tomiyasu visited Bologna because he wanted to see the places where he would work and he returned to Japan to reflect on the offer we made to him. The choice is to made by the player, with the club we already have the agreement"

    It's entirely possible he still did the medical checks too as they are not binding to the signature.
    Also, do note that as said he's technically on holiday now, no matter the club, so it might take a while.
     
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  8. Qytloh

    Qytloh New Member

    Arsenal
    Malaysia
    Aug 14, 2018
    Bologna just signed Denswill (club brugge). They already have 6 Centre-back.
     
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  9. Keren

    Keren Member+

    Feb 15, 2013
    France
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Less than 7M€; right ?
     
  10. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    They'll let someone go, no doubt. I think Danilo might stay, but about the others, who knows.
     
  11. SamuraiBlue2002

    SamuraiBlue2002 Member+

    Dec 20, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
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  12. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Latest rumors say that Tomiyasu decided to not use his third week of holiday to join the pre season earlier.
    Preseason already started but not the frendlies.
    This is the calendar

    14/7
    Bologna-Sciliar (6th div)
    20/7
    Bologna-Virtus Bolzano (4th div)
    26/7
    Koln-Bologna
    29/7
    Schalke 04-Bologna
    3/8
    Augsburg-Bologna
     
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  13. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
  14. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Sinisa Mihajlovic is stepping down as Bologna manager due to health reasons.

    I hope they'll keep the same mindset, because in that environment Tomiyasu can grow. If they change technical direction, this might be a problem.
     
  15. Keren

    Keren Member+

    Feb 15, 2013
    France
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Due to his price, they won't affort to bench him from the beginning.
    It's for him to catch his chance.
     
  16. Interiores

    Interiores Member

    East Tokyo United
    Japan
    Jun 3, 2016
    Japan
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    It's so sad that Mihajlovic suffering from leukemia.

    Earlier this year it was Ikee Rikako, Japan's best hope for multi-gold medallist at Tokyo 2020
     
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  17. Keren

    Keren Member+

    Feb 15, 2013
    France
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
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  18. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    First friendly?
     
  19. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Actually Tomiyasu didn't arrive these days and had already played a friendly on the 20th.
    Keren's post was referred to the Press Conference day.
     
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  20. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Nice Italian try on the first press conference :D
     
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  21. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    His italian was perfect. Nice way to conquer italians' sympathy.

    Now, I ask to JLeague experts: they tried him as a fb and this make me angry cuz I bet they tried him in that position cuz they think as a japanese he's not strong/tall enough to play as a CB.
    My question: did he ever play, consistently, as a fb in JLeague? Or this is simply a total madness choice aka "put the japanese dude in the less important spot where he can't do damage"?
     
  22. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    No.

    Playing as a full-back can do pretty bad damage to a team.

    I think they think he has the pace to tracking opposing players and surge forward + his crosses and passes are not bad.
     
  23. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Hmm. Tomiyasu seems set to start against Schalke.
    The problem: he's been used as a sideback all the time until now...
    The probable lineup: Skorupski; Tomiyasu, Danilo, Denswil, Krejci; Poli, Kingsley; Orsolini, Soriano, Sansone; Palacio
     
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  24. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    It is good they are doing their best to accommodate him in the starting line-up instead of benching him.
     
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  25. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    They won 2-3. Dont know how he played? He played 62 minutes.
     
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