2019-2020 UEFA Referee Discussion [Rs]

I suspect you know the answer, but will provide it anyway.

UEFA have all of the games, Legs 1 and 2, assigned "softly" before Leg 1 is played, with the National Associations being told only that their crew is required for a specific Matchday - they are not even told if it is a Tuesday or Wednesday game. But, Yes, UEFA will know who they plan to use on Leg 2 before Leg 1 is played, and unless something outrageous happens, will stick with that appointment.

But by doing it this way, they retain the ability to move a Referee from one game to another, or possibly even take one off a game to give a chance to someone else if the situation allows it, with the only people who know that there was ever a switch being the Referees and their National Associations.

And, yes, that did happen earlier this season.

 

Karasëv has been removed, replaced by Zwayer.

Sevilla FC (ESP) - AS Roma (ITA)
Referee: Sergei Karasev (RUS) Felix Zwayer (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Igor Demeshko (RUS) Marco Achmüller (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Maksim Gavrilin (RUS) Jan Seidel (GER)
Fourth Official: Sergey Lapochkin (RUS) Christian Dingert (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Vitaliy Meshkov (RUS) Sascha Stegemann (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Sergei Ivanov (RUS) Marco Fritz (GER)

Absolute chaos in Nyon today; I can remember such fiascos at grassroots level but I never thought I would see it at an international level.

 

Skomina is being punished for Bayer Leverkusen - Atlético Madrid performance (I can't remember his MD 1/2 game, he was in EL on MD5), I think. Also I don't think Čeferin's presence, Vinčić's promotion helps him.

I feel really sorry for him, to be honest.

 

Do you know why this is? I thought he had a good performance.

 

UEFA (would) have assessed the Red Card (Serious Foul Play) as incorrect. I would have assessed the situation the same as Skomina did, as SFP.

Besides that, I just have the feeling that there is an agenda against Skomina in UEFA, and unfortunately I think it comes from the very top of the confederation.

I really feel for him.

 

I don't know anything specifically but if I were Skomina I would be bloody fed up about how I was treated in UEFA.

Having been appointed by the committee for the 2018 Final but removed by Čeferin, then started 2018/19 very poorly, when UEFA run out of possible (big) names you undeservedly get pure top clash Liverpool - Napoli, after two good R16 performances you get the 2019 Final, and then after that UEFA essentially dump you.

Not even for normal refereeing politics which is the reality we all accept even as youngsters, which to be fair Skomina benefitted from (Sajn), but so one man can avoid ridiculous allegations of nepotism.

Also it's easy to forget how long Skomina has been around, FIFA referee since 2002 (if I'm not wrong), Elite since about 2009, and EURO 2020 - if indeed he is even there - would be his third European Championship.

In my eyes everything points towards his retirement in the summer (and Çakır's, too).

 

These two statements contradict each other...

 

Tanganga no call in Red Bull v Tottenham
https://i.imgur.com/RjVW38x.gifv

 

Shoulder to shoulder, no?

 

Looks like this match will not take place anyway, at least not on Thursday. Same with Inter Milan - Getafe.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51831256

 

especially since the GK is already holding the ball

 

Manchester City v Real Madrid next Tuesday already called off.

 

The European season is pretty much over. I suspect the Euros will be canceled as well.

It's really unprecedented what is going on and in a way almost remarkable.

Not to downplay the seriousness of what is going on and the problem this is posing, but major sports leagues and events around the world have pretty much survived everything but the World Wars and even the US leagues still got played during the World Wars.

We are just about to have the first year without a European Cup Final since the competition was implemented. Think about that and all that has happened in Europe these 60 plus years since the competition started. Berlin Wall falling/communism collapsing, wars in Yugoslavia, Eurozone crisis, Mad Cow disease, etc. All went on without barely a hitch.

Sports has made it through countless wars since the World Wars in Europe, economic depressions/recessions, other virus/disease outbreaks, political and social upheaval, etc. but not a more serious strand of the flu.

 

Here in the states. NBA has closed it's doors. So has NHL. All 5 power College sports leagues have cancelled their Basketball championships and does anyone REALLY want to try and watch March Madness without any fans?? I don't think I can take 3 hrs of squeaky shoes... Truly and amazing set of events. I believe even MLB is going to be postponing as well. Oh and I forgot MLS is done as well.

 

Are you sure about this or is it just rumors?

If Ceferin removed Skomina from the 2018 final, why would he approve his appointment for the 2019 final?

 

Off topic, I know, for the Referee Forum, but what I think that we might see - if we get lucky and the "shut-down" lasts no more than 4 weeks - is that the Euros will be pushed back a year, even though it will clash with Women's Euros, and that would allow the European Domestic seasons, and potentially UCL and UEL to complete in the 4-week window that is currently set aside for the Euros.

Not ideal, but that would give you the chance to have a complete season while still finishing at the "official" end of season. Just restart as soon as you possibly can, let's say mid/late April (hopefully) and play through to the planned end of Euros, if needed.

Obviously some teams/players would be playing much later than they are used to, and for them their "summer break" would be much shorter than planned, but it would be no worse than it would be for those players who would have played into the latter stages of the Euros anyway.

Of course, if the shut-down lasts more than 4 weeks, this option doesn't necessarily work.

 

I don't think they will scrap them, but the urgency to fit them in this season goes away if the Finals are pushed back to 2021.

As you say, though, the schedule next season is going to be tight, as always, but I think they'd probably try to get them played early in the new season, around the same time as the early UCL Qualifiers, possibly in mid-August.

Not ideal, but I dont see any other option that works, unless we get REALLY lucky and have only a 2-3 week shutdown, and having cancelled the Euros, we might then be able to find a week in June that you could fit them in.

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He did very well, was wise to the gamesmanship and other dark arts tactics of Atletico and Simeone, and put a stop it very firmly. This
in contrast to Marciniak in the first leg who seemed to have no idea about what was going on,especially the targeting of Mane. Very good "Teflon" refereeing by Makkelie IMO.

PH