2019-20 Development Academy

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by TheFalseNine, Jul 17, 2019.

  1. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    When homegrown territories go away, the winners will be the people who invest, and that's more likely to be mid-tier economically.

    They have to cash to invest, but they also have a need for this business model to win out, AND they don't have high priced players taking opportunities away.

    A SKC, Philly or Dallas will be able to sell a kid on developing there whereas it will be apparent to many of them that there's no path to playing time at the LA Galaxy or Atlanta if they continue to buy all their players.

    Some will be fooled. But with the loan army restrictions as well, I think it will be tougher for big money to win out if other clubs establish opportunity and a track record of development.
     
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  2. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With MLS teams cutting u19 sides it is likely they are searching for a new non USL solution to fill the gap
     
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  3. The Hideaway

    The Hideaway Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Sep 23, 2019
    MLS club is a for profit business, while the US Soccer federation is looking for the overall good of US Soccer. As this move shows, in my opinion these goals are not necessarily aligned.

    Getting in bed, so to speak, with MLS at a time that MLS is experiencing enormous budgetary challenges and the viability of the league may in the short term be challenged, is possibly an even worse decision than cutting DA. Do not be surprised if even more teams pull out of the "MLS Elite" league until spring - essentially putting an entire generation of players in a position where they have done nothing but practice for almost all of 2020 and the front half of 2021. If there is any sort of heartbeat in the US soccer federation, these should all be red flags.
     
  4. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I mean, there is a global pandemic. I'm not sure kids should be playing soccer right now anymore than I think pros should be playing soccer. We're trying not to spread this thing ... well, at least some of us are.

    MLS and US Soccer are never going to be perfectly aligned, as no professional league and federation are ever perfectly aligned. But MLS has a lot more money and a lot more financial incentive to invest in development than US Soccer does.

    I have no idea what US Soccer was doing spending $12M on the DA, but if that's true, I understand why it was cut. That's a huge % of the budget, and if you can effectively get someone else to pay for those costs, you have to think about it.
     
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  5. Befuddled

    Befuddled Member

    Swansea City
    United States
    Mar 27, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has this been confirmed that the MLS Developmental League are cutting U19 or are you just speculating?
     
  6. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They are letting teams choose whether they want to field a u19 team or not. A lot likely won't field a u19 team.
     
  7. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    From an Athletic article:

    I expect it to vary club to club. There's been other commentary around using their MLS2 sides or equivalents as essentially where an 18 or 19 year old should go, so that's likely where David and I are making some assumptions around it.
     
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  8. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    #1283 ussoccer97531, Jul 8, 2020
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2020
    '03 Daniel Edelman joins NYRB from PDA.

    https://redbullhub.net/2020/07/08/new-york-red-bulls-ii-usl-championship-return-to-play-preview/

    Patrick Weah will be playing college soccer in the fall. He's attending a year early. I have no clue how that's possible, but its been done before (Ebobisse). Unlike Ebobisse (February birthday), Weah is a December birthday. He'll be 16 nearly his whole first season. He'll definitely face a good level of competition for a 16 year old. I don't mind this, if he only stays one season. The article also states that he only arrived in the USA in 2011, so either when he was 7 or 8 years old.

    https://www.stltoday.com/sports/col...cle_cf555bb4-7dc0-5df8-b9b2-0ec749b6f7d8.html
     
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  9. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    All you have to do is pass a GED test, generally. SLU is private; they can admit who they want. There's a decent number of football players and one or two basketball players who have gotten early starts on their careers.
     
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  10. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There’s also a lot of HS that give college credit classes. Not sure if all or most transfer to out of state schools but in Texas I’ve heard of kids leaving with two years of college credits.
     
  11. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    AP credits transfer country wide if that's what you're talking about, and of course you could take some community college or online classes as well to get advanced.

    It really depends where you go to school, though. Some public schools offer no AP courses, others offer enough to start college as a junior. They also aren't typically accepted for courses towards your major/minor but are useful for getting general education requirements out of the way.

    Source: recent college student. You can guess where.
     
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  12. NoHammiesAltidore

    United States
    Jun 28, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can confirm, source: am college student, although TarHeels17 chose the wrong NC school, Go Pack.
     
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  13. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry to hear that.
     
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  14. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
  15. Lookingforleftbacks

    Galaxy
    United States
    Dec 17, 2016
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Best u17s and younger?
     
  16. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I'm too far removed now to actually know. I haven't watched one of their games for a while. There are folks who REALLY like the U17 goalkeeper Antonio Carrera. That's Nico Carrera's brother. There are people who love Matthew Corcoran, who may be playing up with the U17s. He's a central midfielder.

    So I'll go with those as the top two kids 17 or younger.

    Worth noting that there are players with FCD's first team and USL team that are still eligible for these squads. Ricardo Pepi, and Dante Sealy, for instance, are still only 17.
     
  17. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anthony Ramirez, Diego Hernandez, Jordan Jones, Matthew Corcoran, Gabriel Brandon, Henry Canizalez
     
  18. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I'm working on a project that will help enhance viewing experience for fans when they watch youth games for the upcoming season.

    Are there any players (from the '03-'06 age groups, maybe a star '07 that plays up) around the country (in any league) that you think I should list? I'm at nearly 300 names, so off the radar names is my question here. They can be from any club.

    This is addressed to everyone who reads the forum. I know many read it and don't post regularly that are very knowledgeable. If you'd like to comment here with your response, please do so. If you'd like to send me a PM, you can also do that. I appreciate any help that can be given.
     
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  19. Robert Markivski

    Robert Markivski New Member

    Barcelona
    United States
    Jul 18, 2020
     
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  20. Robert Markivski

    Robert Markivski New Member

    Barcelona
    United States
    Jul 18, 2020
    O5 kid from vardar academy from michigan
     
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  21. clsafe

    clsafe Member

    United States
    Feb 13, 2020
    Just sent you 2 07's that will be playing up with Sounders u15
     
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  22. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who would these 07’s potentially be? I would like to add them to my tracking spreadsheet
     
  23. clsafe

    clsafe Member

    United States
    Feb 13, 2020
    Tomo Allen
    Etienne Ve
    Tomo Allen & Etienne Veillard
     
  24. CANPRO

    CANPRO Member+

    Dec 23, 2002
     

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