2018 WC Russia: Worldwide Opponents Watch [all R's]

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Dr. Gamera, Jul 25, 2014.

  1. Dr. Gamera

    Dr. Gamera Member+

    Oct 13, 2005
    Wheaton, Maryland
    This thread is inspired by, most recently, the thread from @TimB4Last entitled 2014 WC Brasil - CONCACAF WCQ opponents watch [all R's]. That thread eventually broadened to include non-CONCACAF teams as well; for organizational purposes, therefore, I've started two threads, one CONCACAF-0nly, and one for all other teams around the world. This is the thread for all other teams around the world; here is a link to the CONCACAF-only thread:
    http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/2018-wc-russia-concacaf-opponents-watch-all-rs.2008960/

    To start things off, here is an early projection from @Edgar of the final 2018 draw:
    http://www.football-rankings.info/2014/07/2018-fifa-world-cup-final-draw-seeding.html

    Right now, the teams in position for a seed in the 2018 World Cup are: Russia, Germany, Argentina, Netherlands, Colombia, France, Uruguay and Brazil. A lot will change in the next three and a half years, of course.

    Of interest as well may be Edgar's early projections for the qualifying draw in AFC and CAF:
    http://www.football-rankings.info/2014/07/2018-fifa-world-cup-qualifying-draw_45.html
    http://www.football-rankings.info/2014/07/2018-fifa-world-cup-qualifying-draw_17.html

    Of particular interest is that Australia has currently slipped out of the projected Pot 1. Australia will need to do well in the 2015 AFC Asian Cup to avoid the possibility of being drawn into a group with another strong AFC team in which only the group winner is guaranteed to advance to the final round of 2018 AFC World Cup Qualifying. Fortunately for Australia, they're hosting the 2015 AFC Asian Cup.
     
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  2. Crispa Redmanizers

    Jun 5, 2014
    United States
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow my 2nd national team Philippines could maybe be drawn into Pot 3...something I never thought I'd ever hear...
     
  3. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seriously way too early, you got the worm for sure.

    Funny you jumped to WC when we will have the "total AMERICAS tourney" and Olympics before we even get to qualifiers for this.
     
  4. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well the Crimea, Donetsk, and Lugansk are going to be interesting from a grand strategic perspective. Does Russia answer the call of the separatists? Does Putin want a quagmire of instability to undermine the new government in Ukraine? What does the exponential muslim birthrate in the Tartar and Caucus regions mean for the sharp decrease of Slavic birthrate? Will it mean a fundamental change in Russian identity? Is this all just western propaganda?
     
  5. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Given current events, the World may be involved in something much bigger than soccer in 2018, and not in a good way...
     
  6. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Qualifiers start less than a year away. So in a way this is closer than the Copa or the Olympics.

    The CONCACAF first round will likely start in June 2015, with the smaller Caribbean teams playing home and away matches, to reduce the field to only half of the minnows.

    By the end of June, Asia will start their own home-and-away minnow thinning first round.

    Right away, in July, the AFC starts their second round, with the 22 second-tier teams, plus the eight third-tier that survived the first round. Half of these teams (15) will move on to face the first-tier teams (5) in 2016.

    In September, the CONCACAF second round starts, still missing the Top 6 teams (usually the guys from the previous Hex). So we have six groups where only the winner marches on. Likely seeds will be Salvador, Guatemala, Cuba, T&T, Antigua, and Haiti or Canada, depending. So six teams move onto the semi-final round in 2016, where they'll join the Big 6.

    The first good matches are in October, when CONMEBOL has their first round in their usual Battle Royal. Even the order of the games is always the same, since the South Americans are sticklers for tradition. So the first date will have the usual Uruguay-Bolivia opener, followed by Argentina-Chile, Ecuador-Venezuela, Peru-Paraguay, and closing with Brazil-Colombia.

    In November, Africa starts their qualifiers, although we don't know what the format will be this time around, since it's expected to revert to the old format. If so, we'll have a first round between minnows to thin the herd in early November, followed by the first group phase in 2015.

    The year ends in late November, when the Oceania islands start their qualification, another minnow-herd-thinning affair, around the Winter Solstice. Traditionally, only one of those mini-minnows makes it to the next round, that won't be played until the summer of 2016.
     
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  7. Edgar

    Edgar Member

    AFC have merged the Asian Cup and World Cup qualifiers. See Wikipedia.

    They will have a preliminary round to trim the number of teams to 40. Then 8 groups of 5 with the winners and 4 best runners-up advancing to the final 2 groups of 6.

    Oddly, they have the first 2 match dates of the first group round before the July draw. I think FIFA will push them to change the dates.
     
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  8. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Ah thanks. Didn't know they had gone through with that change. The dates must be similar though. Prelim round in June, with a prelim draw before that. They need to know how many entrants there's going to be first, though. That should be solved by May, I guess,
     
  9. Dr. Gamera

    Dr. Gamera Member+

    Oct 13, 2005
    Wheaton, Maryland
    2018 World Cup qualifying itself has not started, but some meaningful matches have started in qualification for continental tournaments, and some interesting results have occurred. Results in meaningful matches significantly affect FIFA rankings. FIFA rankings affect not only seeds at the World Cup itself, but also seeding for World Cup qualifying, which can easily determine which teams qualify and which teams don't.

    Here are some surprising results from these meaningful matches. In UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying, Greece somehow contrived to lose 0-1 at home to Romania, and Portugal suffered an embarrassing 0-1 home defeat to Albania. In 2015 Africa Cup of Nations qualifying, Ghana was held to a 1-1 draw with visiting Uganda, Egypt couldn't score in a 2-0 away loss to Senegal, and Nigeria shockingly lost 2-3 at home to Congo (Brazzaville).
     
  10. USOutlaw16

    USOutlaw16 Member+

    Green Bay Voyageurs
    United States
    Jan 22, 2011
    On the Gringo Wall of Shame
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    During England's 2-0 win over Switzerland in Euro 2016 qualifying, travelling English supporters gave their amusing view of the Scotland independence referendum in 10 days

     
  11. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    #11 Suyuntuy, Sep 9, 2014
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    The Qatar keeper pulling an Ochoa against Peru today.

    Looking forward to the Czechs vs. Dutch later today.
     
  12. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    so is this basically an overall "other teams thread" as WC 2018 is quite some time away?.... I'm quite enjoying watching the Euro qualifying openers with so many possible qualifying scenarions given the tournament's expansion... atm, Wales being held by Andorra, while Bosnia drawing with Cyprus...
     
  13. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    If anyone wants to see what a terrible NT looks like, watch the Norwegians. WTH happened to them? They were decent, now they're probably Guatemala level.
     
  14. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Yeah, until that Norwegian Messi kid starts playing for their National Team more regularly.
     
  15. Dr. Gamera

    Dr. Gamera Member+

    Oct 13, 2005
    Wheaton, Maryland
    Looks as if the USA did a good job preparing the Czech Republic for games that matter, as they were 2-1 victors at home over the Netherlands. In other surprising news, Iceland won 3-0 at home over Turkey, and Cyprus won 2-1 in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
     
  16. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Chile barely beating Haiti 1-0. Haiti found the formula to calm down the speedy Chileans: foul them hard enough to get 'em scared.
     
  17. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    BTW, Croatia looked pedestrian against humble Malta today. They only managed to score after the Knights got reduced to 10. And that in Zagreb.
     
  18. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thing Manzukic is my new least favorite player after his antics got a Malteser sent off... Hilarious scenes in Andorra as Wales fans invade the pitch to celebrate getting "Baled" out by a late ditch goal from you know who..... oh well, now matter how badly things are going for the USMNT fans, at least everyday when we wake up we can thank the lord we're not Welsh... what about Iceland though, great win vs. Turkey.... that group has really been turned on its head with Iceland thrashing the Turks, and Holland getting Czech-mated by the erm, Czechs

     
  19. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    India, jealous of the Chinese brand new success in Asian competition, have decided to revamp their soccer league (which was mainly a regional thing), and is launching the Indian Super League. For it, they're bringing some famous old players to help with the PR campaign:

    http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/09/19/soccer-india-del-piero-idINKBN0HE1K420140919

    The Big Eight for this India-wide superleague will be:

    Delhi Dynamos
    Atletico de Kolkata
    NorthEast United
    Kerala Blasters
    Mumbay City
    Chenaiyin FC
    FC Goa
    Pune City

    "Marquee" players (each team is supposed to have one): Elano, Pires, Del Piero, Ljungberg, James, Garcia, Capdevila and Trezeguet. Past big-ish names, now in their mid-30s.

    But at least it's a start.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Super_League
     
  20. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    I-League was a regional thing?? Hm didn't know that.
     
  21. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    some interesting coach names in India too... Marco Materazzi, Peter Reid, Riki Herbert, Zico, etc.... no Indian coaches though....
     
  22. USOutlaw16

    USOutlaw16 Member+

    Green Bay Voyageurs
    United States
    Jan 22, 2011
    On the Gringo Wall of Shame
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FYP

    Guangzhou Evergrande FWIW is the shining beacon of hope in a steaming pile of crap that's the Chinese Super League

    Hopefully the founders of the Indian Super League can not only duplicate their success, but with more than one team as well
     
  23. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    It's going to be a long road, looking at the list of has-beens over there. Except Elano, all the others were virtually retiring before they got called for this.
     
  24. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    That's being generous. The average age of those guys is 38.

    Talk about retirement league, the ISL is going to be where retired players go to retire AFTER going to MLS. :D
     
  25. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know of a soccer league in the Western Hemisphere that tried that strategy a decade or so ago... :D
     
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