Review: 2018 WC Qualifying - Towards winning our first WC title: А дело бывало -- и коза волка съедала.

Discussion in 'The Netherlands' started by DRB300, Jul 23, 2015.

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Netherlands will end up as nr. 1 in the group.

  1. No-brainer. Of course we will.

    23.1%
  2. If we start like the Euro 2016 qualification, no way. We will go to Russia though.

    42.3%
  3. Not even going to qualify. We do a 2002.

    34.6%
  1. Oranje98

    Oranje98 Member

    Aug 8, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    4 great generations :confused:. you forgot about the mighty 98 generation with Bergkamp and coo_O.
     
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  2. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Yes, the 1998 WC team was really quite good but had the misfortune to come up against Brazil in the semifinals. That was too early for van Nistelrooy.
     
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  3. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Deportivo Wanka, Semen Padang, Dinamo Bender, Fotballaget Fart
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah but they actually played head to toe with Brazil in that match almost winning but just going out on pens... same vs italy 2 years later...

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  4. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #529 Brilliant Dutch, Sep 7, 2016
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2016
    Fucking bullshit, we should've DESTROYED that Brazil team (just like we did in 2010, or 1974).

    Brazil are generally scared of Holland, because they are not certain what exactly we will bring against them, which is most often a giagantic piece of POWNAGE!!!!

    BTW......Holland are the ONLY country to hold a 3-2 win/loss international advantage over THEM in the world when it comes to international play. No other country in the world has beaten Holland when it comes to Brazil, that is a fact!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  5. Keko

    Keko Member

    Jul 17, 2014
    Chicago
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Don't forget the 90s generation with Bergkamp, Davids, Kluivert, Stam, De Boer, etc,etc.
     
  6. Keko

    Keko Member

    Jul 17, 2014
    Chicago
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    What happened with DRB? Did the earth swallow him??
     
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  7. Keko

    Keko Member

    Jul 17, 2014
    Chicago
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    I have that game recorded on VHS. Even Kuyt looks skillful compared to the likes of Klaassen or Wijnaldum.
     
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  8. Laurent75

    Laurent75 Member

    Aug 2, 2014
    Must be having holidays in Morocco
     
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  9. Keko

    Keko Member

    Jul 17, 2014
    Chicago
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Hahahaha
     
  10. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I liked DRB.

    Bring him back, alsjeblieft :thumbsup:

    AUB
    SVP
     
  11. Oranje98

    Oranje98 Member

    Aug 8, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Lol. Thinking about Kuyt, the man can still bevery helpful for this current Oranje team , especially with his unbelievable versatility and leadership skills.
     
  12. Okay, when we get this kind of talk it is time to guard the dikes, as the water is seeping through it (keep your fingers ready, Hansje B!) and spilling over.

    Not this one that is:
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  13. That happens when you dare to contradict me:devilish:.
    He had a sudden epiphany of the truth I spread and is now in a 40 days retreat in the desert to meditate and will come back as a matured and wiser, but above all enlightened man.
     
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  14. VHS? You should be quick to copy it to a hard disk, as the last company producing VHS players has ceased to do so.
     
  15. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Thats true, but you cant deny that having great speed is a tremendous asset. Would Robben be as good as he was if he was a slowpoke?? I dont think so
     
  16. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
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  17. Laurent75

    Laurent75 Member

    Aug 2, 2014
    Well, Robben is a winger. Almost all great wingers had speed, bar Beckham if we consider him a great player, which I personnally don't really do.

    Now, do playmakers need speed ? Nowadays maybe since the tempo is higher, and you got players like Hazard who can combine speed and great passing...But there aren't a lot like him though. And he isn't the best example in terms of effectivness neither...

    So I still believe slow 10's à la Van der Vaart or Riquelme can rock if used properly.
     
  18. Mr.S

    Mr.S Member

    Oct 22, 2011
    Robben's got 3-4 good if he is healthy n used properly. He will be like Totti in a way. The guy is such a natural scorer n has such good combination plays & he is tactically n intelligence wise very high. He has played ST, 2nd ST, LW, RW capably.

    I think in the future after 1-2 years he will transition to a 10ish role & he will play it well or he will play ST like Totti. But as of now he has the speed to a Bayern Munich Winger so he should fit Oranje. I mean Messi is 29, Ronaldo is 31, both of them are slower than Robben & play the wing due to their technical skill or goal-scoring or play-making ability. I mean if speed was the be it all you would have Lennon as one of the best winger, but Robben is still pretty quick!

    I mean I looked @ Ribery who is 1 years older this season & he was always slower than Robben & he looked very good n quick this season for Bayern!
     
  19. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  20. JC-14

    JC-14 Member+

    Jan 28, 2010
    Amsterdam
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  21. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #546 Orange14, Sep 9, 2016
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2016
  22. Sybe Pals

    Sybe Pals Member

    Oct 13, 2015
    Comox, BC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
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    Re: our mediocre CM situation.. seems it is mostly the wing backs who are able to find them, but not so often.
    Of course, as many also noticed, Strootman's game in particular suffers more than others' when he can't find them to get the ball to.

    But, glad we were able to create some chances despite this!
    But what I can't decide, if it is our plan to play more on the wings, or is this just what happens because of Wijnaldum and Klaassen's inability to find space and create some chances?
     
  23. JC-14

    JC-14 Member+

    Jan 28, 2010
    Amsterdam
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I only tuned in towards the end but I saw Oranje playing a 4-2-4 formation against a 4-5-1 from Greece. Even if Strootman and Klaassen were good footballers they'd have no chance to play it through the middle like that.
     
  24. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Blind can't dribble one on one so you obviously expect him to use the midfield's compared to the likes of PVA and Willem's who like running don't the flanks. I think intruction vs Sweden was quiet clear defuse and sit back. On the other hand if janmaat was defensively lethargic but was offensively was running riot,I cant see Why PVA would have been a better option than Blind.

    Janmaat and is overlapping game,it is always gona be the wingers or midfield he will use to go forward.
     

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