Review: 2018 WC Qualifying - Towards winning our first WC title: А дело бывало -- и коза волка съедала.

Discussion in 'The Netherlands' started by DRB300, Jul 23, 2015.

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Netherlands will end up as nr. 1 in the group.

  1. No-brainer. Of course we will.

    23.1%
  2. If we start like the Euro 2016 qualification, no way. We will go to Russia though.

    42.3%
  3. Not even going to qualify. We do a 2002.

    34.6%
  1. DRB300

    DRB300 Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
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    Does not matter what group we get. We will smash our opposition and dominate the hell out of everybody in the group. Everything to get to Russia and stick it to these civilian airplane shooters. These barbarians need to be set straight and what better way to give a signal to Putin and his posse by winning it in their country under their very nose.


    Remember this Putin?:





    I do. :laugh::thumbsup: More to come soon.


    PS And you could only win in 2008 with the help of a Dutch coach. Doesn't count, sorry. :)
     
  2. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Bring back the 1988 Kits!!! That will strike fear into every opponent.
     
  3. DRB300

    DRB300 Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    [​IMG]

    So ugly that it is beautiful.
     
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  4. bunbohue

    bunbohue Member

    Apr 5, 2005
    Thank you for the thread. The picture of the squad in the final...sweet memories. Perhaps not the best looking kits but it is my favourite. The brothers traditions, the cool big ego keeper very good with PK, the 3 flying masters, the hard working sitting 5 plus Erwin standing....
     
  5. JC-14

    JC-14 Member+

    Jan 28, 2010
    Amsterdam
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Van Basten, Koeman, Rijkaard, Gullit. Frightening.
     
  6. Laurent75

    Laurent75 Member

    Aug 2, 2014
    I seriously hope that Russia won't host this.

    The cops managed to keep the situation ok in Poland/Ukraine in 2012, but Russia is so big and the hooligans are much more numerous, they will make problems for sure.
     
  7. bunbohue

    bunbohue Member

    Apr 5, 2005
    Russia will host 2018. I'm sure 100% even FBI can prove that Russia won with bribes. It is too late to change the host as we are only 3 years away. I don't know how Russia will handle hooligans and racist but when it is needed, Russia will put down its iron fists as any Communists/Dictatorships country do. It is Qatar 2022 that I hope that it will change the host. Winter WC, workers condition, temperature concern not only for players but also fans, ...oh and the bribes. As Blatter said before, FIFA will not care about politics (eg Ukraine) but they care if the government interfere with the Soccer governing body. Until Blatter stepped down then reform can really takes place.
    1988 remains my favourite moment. It is not total football like 74, but still beautiful and effective. Blind should have posted the above picture in the teamroom for the Euro qualification as a motivation.
     
  8. Italy-Azzurri-Fan

    Nov 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Is Russia any worse than Brazil? Brazil had huge terrorism going on and protests.
     
  9. KGOranje

    KGOranje Member

    Nov 13, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Is there a stream for the draw?
     
  10. Italy-Azzurri-Fan

    Nov 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  11. nurvin

    nurvin Member

    Feb 11, 2011
    What a hard group!
    Netherlands
    France
    Sweden
    Bulgaria
    Belarus
    Luxembourg

    On the contrary this is quite weak:
    Wales
    Austria
    Serbia
    Republic of Ireland
    Moldova
    Georgia
     
  12. KGOranje

    KGOranje Member

    Nov 13, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    So...
    France, Sweden, Bulgaria, Belarus and Luxemburg.

    Looks like we're going to the playoffs, mates.
     
  13. Laurent75

    Laurent75 Member

    Aug 2, 2014
    I even think that Sweden can finish 2nd, they just won the EC-21, they have some good youngsters.

    Hard group
     
  14. DRB300

    DRB300 Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  15. DRB300

    DRB300 Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I feel bad for France. :D
     
  16. Laurent75

    Laurent75 Member

    Aug 2, 2014
    Remember we had a bit the same group in 2008. We were with Romania, Slovenia, Albania, Belarus and Luxemburg.

    We finished behind Romania and had a very hard time to beat Luxemburg ( 0-1 1-0).

    Now we have kinda the same group but with France, so it makes it even harder.
     
  17. KGOranje

    KGOranje Member

    Nov 13, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    #17 KGOranje, Jul 25, 2015
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2015
    They didn't deserve to win it, to be honest. Yes, they do have some very good youngsters, but I highly doubt that Sweden will manage to flash out a good team in such a short time considering that it would be a baptism of fire for the most youngsters, and the old guys like Zlatan probably won't be there.
    I'm not saying, of course, that we are allowed to underestimate them. HELL ********ING NO. But they are definitely not the toughest opponents we could have got from pot 3. I would have been much more sacred if we were drawn against Ukraine, Poland or Serbia.
    France on the other hand - we'll be extremely lucky to get a draw AT HOME against them.
     
  18. DRB300

    DRB300 Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Seriously though. France is a bad match up. Lost to them before the WC and they catch us potentially in our weak phase. The Sweden remark is a good one. They just won the U21, so they could be stronger than we anticipate, if it is not one of those teams that won us back to back U21 championships.

    Well, we got what we got. It also sucks for Sweden. France are rising again and I am pretty sure will qualify for 2018. it will be between us and Sweden.
     
  19. Laurent75

    Laurent75 Member

    Aug 2, 2014
    I definitly agree.
     
  20. Italy-Azzurri-Fan

    Nov 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Also Bulgaria and Belarus are not to be underestimated:

    Bulgaria 2-2 Italy (We had injured players but still).
    Belarus 0-1 Spain (Huge mistake by the belarusian goalkeeper, and Belarus had a wrongly disallowed goal. I watched the game and Belarus put up a huge fight. Speaking of that I am not sure how good this Spain team is but still).
     
  21. KGOranje

    KGOranje Member

    Nov 13, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Bulgaria also got a home draw against Malta, so...
     
  22. Laurent75

    Laurent75 Member

    Aug 2, 2014
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    Yes, I was always teasing my friends between 2008 and 2012 cause I was sure Holland would beat France at any moment. Everything was just better, the NT results, the young teams...

    Now the difference of level looks big. How many times have young dutch teams been humiliated by french ones ? I remember a U19 game three years ago which ended 6-0 for France, this year the U21 there was a 4-0 in Toulon and another one 4-1 few months before in a friendly.
    Also remember the 2-0 with the senior team in the friendly before the world cup

    The difference of level between the french and dutch young players looks big for me at this moment.
     
  23. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

    Jun 21, 2009
    SF North Bay
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    Wales and Romania in Pot 1, and France and Italy in pot 2. It makes no earthly sense, and this is the result, a logjam of good teams in Group A, and Spain and Italy matched up in Group G.

    I guess I shouldn't complain, as Denmark got about the easiest draw imaginable. Poland is probably our biggest threat, even though they are seed #3 and Romania is seed #1.

    Swedes got screwed. :p
     
  24. Italy-Azzurri-Fan

    Nov 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I am not really sure but just play your best against them and you'll be fine. Don't underestimate any team, even Luxembourg.
     
  25. KGOranje

    KGOranje Member

    Nov 13, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I was thinking: One of the reasons we are doing bad at the Euros at the moment (besides an Idiot manager) is that we got complacent due to the fact that in those Euro qualifiers, basically half the team in the competition qualify. We entered this campaign with a "no worry, we'll qualify anyway just like almost everyone else", and because of that, our players and manager subconsciously didn't give a ******** about some opponents and on the competition in general.

    The exact same thing happened to Germany and Spain, losing to Poland and Slovakia. The difference is that they were in an easier group than ours (maybe it's only me, but ever since the draw was announced in February 2014 I thought we got a very tricky group), so they had little problem recovering from those results.

    My point is: due to the fact that in the WCQ we know from the start that we can only automatically qualify from position #1 and that position 3 is not even an option (unlike in the Euro qualifiers), we'll probably go into this competition in a much more serious mind set, like we always did before the '16 EQ.

    So… maybe it won't be THAT bad after all. Does anyone agree with me?
     
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