Hi, everyone just wondering if on your side you have heard of Tata Martino becoming Colombia’s new coach? Read you guys are giving him until October to decide with Colombia and Argentina both wanting him. Sorry if posted to the wrong area don’t normally come to the MLS boards.
Tata has suggested we'll all know his future within a couple weeks, with the popular suspicion being that he's considering either the Argentina and Colombian positions or staying put in Atlanta. If I had to put money down it's likely an even split between the three. We know he would enjoy being closer to family but he's said in the past that going back to a relationship with the Argentinian Federation may prove difficult given how the two sides parted in the past. Colombia is certainly a top option among Conmebol nations, deep with talent and support, so I imagine Tata is weighing how much he'd control there and how closely it might play out to his past in Argentina - ie: Frought with office politics souring the experience. One thing we know for sure, Tata is wanted in Atlanta, is very well paid, and is truly enjoying that he's not being hounded by the media. He says it's the most relaxed and rewarded he's felt coaching in some time. So if he wants to stay the team will keep him pretty much until he retires. Whether or not that's enough for him we shall see. As an Atlanta fan keeping Tata is our #1 priority.
Think he might be using Colombia to get more money from you guys. Our last coach was paid 1.5 million and our fed wants to pay way less then that. Colombian media is just as bad as the Argie one. Our last coach quit because they made up lies about him for 2 months. Think he using us for a bigger pay day from You guys. Colombia is using his name to buy time and give the interim coach a few games then just give him the job and pay him next to nothing.
While no official figures have been stated, other than a quote from Tata noting he'll be paid less at Atlanta than the $6M he was making at Barcelona, we have heard from insiders that his wages would equate to among the best paid players on the team, which would put him in the $1M range. Given how the club have performed since I suspect owner Arthur Blank would be willing and able to pay $1.5M or more to keep him. He's that valuable a commodity to the team right now and the step down from him in terms of coaching candidates is quite severe. Now, whether or not that's enough to keep Tata happy in Atlanta vs. elsewhere only he can say.
My money is on Tata decides after the end of the season depending on whether or not we win the supporters shield.
Why would he wait until after the season's end and then decide based on the shield, instead of deciding based on the Cup?
Place your Tata bets. Does our gaffer stay or go. If you think he goes, where to? If you think he goes, who replaces him?
I'm confident Blank and Company will do their part to keep him. Whether or not their offer will be enough to keep him I can't say but from my fan's perspective I think he's worth $1.5M easy. Now if the allure of something closer to Argentina or with bigger international profile is stronger than that kind of money then I'll wish him well. But as of today I'd say he's 60-40 leaning toward staying. So long as we don't lose him because the team is playing low-ball then I'm okay with it. I do think if he sustains this success for another year or two there is a good chance a prominent European club makes him a serious offer that will surpass anything a national team could pay him. Possible replacement for Simione?
News outlets today saying Atlanta has officially offered an extension and that the decision will be made by October 1, per contract terms.
I emailed Doug Roberson @ AJC about the matter. His reply: "I don't think money will be an issue. It'll be desire." I take it to mean the club will pay him what he wants, it's just a matter of what does Tata wants to do.
He just doesn't stay places for long. I think he likes taking on new challenges to keep himself from growing bored. There are too many exciting opportunities out there to put his imprint upon. Of course saying this, I realize that by leaving and picking a national team, he is making a 4 year commitment to get through the next World Cup. I don't see him making such a long commitment, so maybe we get him for another year.
According to Univision Martino is giving the discussions with Atlanta full attention and opportunity. Via English translation it sounds like he'll stay provided they come to an agreement, so at least the decision may be exclusive to Atlanta and not based on outside pressures. Can't ask for more than that.
The Athletic SoccerVerified account Anybody see the story--Tues-- on Gressel in "The Athletic." It was a pay site and I was wondering what was said?
Didn't see that one but I imagine it was similar to the AJC story this week about him - Passed over by other teams in the draft, now looking like a steal, great complement to Tata's style and Almiron's play, etc. He is a great player for this team and I'm thrilled to have pieces like him, Guzan, and now Bello who should be here for a few years. But Gressell's crossing is amazing and his spacing on the right is beyond his years, so the dude could well find himself in Europe in a couple years.
Has Bello actually signed a homegrown deal or does he have the potential to pack up for Europe once he turns 18?
I'm pretty sure you can't make a 1st team appearance without having a contract, as part of the Players' Union terms. I know Carleton has a contract.
I would agree, and the earned suspension has nothing to do with that rating. I didn't expect him to be Giovinco but I did expect something more dynamic than what we've seen. He's woefully predictable, sometimes so off on his own he's disrupting the team play, and because of those traits he's not the offensive contributor that Asad was. I'm sure he will get better, the question is by how much and how soon? More importantly, if he was bought as part of the solution to losing Miguel at season's end then I would truly worry about that as a Plan A.
Agreed me too also as well on Barco. Just haven't seen it. I believe I've seen more potential out of Carleton in his brief appearances than Barco all year. I think we're set up for a very interesting winter. Do y'all remember the security deposit the team made on some cat named Lucas Rodriguez? https://www.dirtysouthsoccer.com/20...7-million-for-a-player-they-might-not-acquire We ponied up 1.7M non-refunable dollars for the rights to sign LRod and that window has closed. Money gone, no player. I fully expect Almiron to be sent to Europe in the January window. Does this mean we go back after Rodriguez? What if Tata leaves? Do we hire another South American skipper or do we see a radical philosophy change? If Almiron does leave what does that mean for Martinez? After all they're bff's. Will Josef's MLS enthusiasm dim without his fusion dance partner? As if the rest of the league isn't sick of us already regarding the attention we get. We're going to own ALL of the headlines this winter
Almiron listed as week-to-week according to the press, which suggests at the least he'll be okay for the playoffs. I doubt he'll play against Chicago, which should be fine. Not easy, but if Atlanta is all they're cracked up to be then they should be able to do the job without Miguel in a home match against the struggling Fire. If we're lucky the Red Bulls drop points against Philly and the Toronto match becomes essentially meaningless, and then maybe Miggy gets additional rest.
I guess let’s just slide Barco into Miggy’s role. It’s time he starts earning his keep anyways. I think more pressing is to continue to start Bello. I don’t think we can give up that left sided threat, as McCann was definitely a step down at LM. ——-Martinez—Villalba————- —————Barco——————— Bello—Nagbe—-Remedi—Gressel ——LGP—-Parky—-Escobar—— —————-Guzan——————— Subs: Kratz, Larentowicz, Carleton/Vasquez/Romario