[2018 FIFA World Cup Russia] Korea vs Germany 2018/06/27 [R]

Discussion in 'Korea' started by Seol Korea, Jun 26, 2018.

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Predictions for Korea vs Germany.

  1. Korea will win.

    51 vote(s)
    77.3%
  2. Korea will draw.

    2 vote(s)
    3.0%
  3. Korea will lose.

    13 vote(s)
    19.7%
  1. Chucky2202

    Chucky2202 Red Card

    Nov 24, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    Reunion
    It took him 1 world cup match to realize starting KSW was a mistake. Most of us on here saw that a mile away. He's tactically inept and must pay for his incompetence.
     
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  2. nmssis

    nmssis Member+

    May 21, 2011
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    it's a song we've been singing for ages now...lol
     
  3. chook90

    chook90 Member+

    South Korea
    Jan 2, 2015
    Al Khor, Qatar
    Club:
    FC Seoul
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I actually made a bet with a family member that Korea will win by 2 goals. lol
     
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  4. Hodori

    Hodori Member+

    Aug 12, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
  5. dudedudedude

    dudedudedude Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Baltimore, MD
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I can't get over the fact that Germany is at the bottom of our group. :D:D. Feel bad that we didn't make it to the next round though.
     
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  6. azriel

    azriel Member+

    Sep 7, 2005
    San Diego, USA
    Club:
    Real Madrid

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  7. Seol Korea

    Seol Korea Member+

    Jun 24, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
  8. killaorca

    killaorca Member+

    AFC Ajax
    May 11, 2010
    Pacific Ocean
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
  9. Chucky2202

    Chucky2202 Red Card

    Nov 24, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    Reunion
  10. ChristusVictor

    Jun 18, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I feel Hispanics just don't seem to understand (or refuse to understand) the racial implications of that gesture. Its been done too many times (Spain 2008 Olympics) to just chalk it up to pure ignorance.

    Any Mexican (or Hispanic) lurkers want to enlighten me? I've been told its a form of endearment, but I doubt it would be considered endearing to perpetuate Mexican stereotypes?
     
  11. 10August2012

    10August2012 Member+

    Oct 28, 2012
    Melbourne
    Club:
    Sunnanå SK Skellefteå
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Hey bro, can you just use normal text? Thanks :thumbsup:
     
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  12. Testator

    Testator Member

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    I'm not Hispanic, but I have a theory. One of the images above has a person saying: ˝Today we are all Koreans.˝ Now, the gesture they are all performing is an attempt to ˝become Korean˝. They do not associate this with anything bad, I think?
     
  13. ChristusVictor

    Jun 18, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    That's what I mean.

    It just happens too often that I don't think there is any malicious intent. Call it cultural ignorance or insensitivity?

    Although, many East Asians (Japanese, Chinese, Korean) have expressed disapproval and annoyance at the gesture ... but we're not that high on the oppression scale so nobody really listens.
     
  14. killaorca

    killaorca Member+

    AFC Ajax
    May 11, 2010
    Pacific Ocean
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    Doesn't matter, it's still racist. They need to educate themselves and stop doing it.
     
  15. ChristusVictor

    Jun 18, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I don't disagree. The issue is that East Asians aren't the type to riot in the streets over this. We'll just act in passive aggressive ways and win all the math competitions.

    [​IMG]
     
  16. Testator

    Testator Member

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    It would help if the Korean embassy made a public statement asking Mexicans to stop doing it, explaining that Koreans don't like being reduced to generic people with almond eye shapes.
     
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  17. zdrstvte

    zdrstvte Member+

    Aug 27, 2012
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    You notice this not only in Latin America but also in Spain as well. For example, a person maybe be called 'chino' even if you're not from China, as they just don't see it as a big deal. In general, they consider these kind of things as a sign of endearment rather than being derogatory.

    A good context to understand them is the blackface shown on Korean TV. A lot of Koreans were just confused why it's such a big deal when they were just imitating a black person, and did not see why there was so much hoo-hah over it given that there was no malicious intent, but obviously in the wider context it's not acceptable given the wider connotations, just like these 'Asian' gestures that Mexicans are making.
     
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  18. ChristusVictor

    Jun 18, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    East Asians generally don't care about how they're perceived. Superficially all we care about is success and money so this is just a minor annoyance.
     
  19. Testator

    Testator Member

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    Cultural circles are pretty diverse, of course. The main reason for all these awkward situations is that comparatively, Asians are a rare occurence in Central America, so cultural understanding is low. Same goes for black people in Korea.
     
  20. zdrstvte

    zdrstvte Member+

    Aug 27, 2012
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Actually, there is a very significant number of Asian diaspora and people of Asian decent in Latin America, and for them making these kind of gestures would mean no more than an endearing gesture, given that it is generally accepted that way.
     
  21. Testator

    Testator Member

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    Enough Asians for most Mexicans to see them on a daily basis?
     
  22. ChristusVictor

    Jun 18, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    You do realize that the largest overseas Japanese population is in Brazil right?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Latin_Americans

    Obviously not a part of Mexico proper, but still within the Latin American sphere of influence so definitely more common than a black man in East Asia.
     
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  23. Hyunstickystuff

    Jan 10, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I'm saying it's fine don't make a big deal out of it.
    It's the truth, their "endearing" portrayal isn't false.
    Own it whatever.
    Them cutting grass is also the truth and I need my grass cut otherwise it gets out of control. We need their labor.
     
  24. killaorca

    killaorca Member+

    AFC Ajax
    May 11, 2010
    Pacific Ocean
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    I don't find it endearing so they need to stop. Same with blackface. Shit is so cringy and makes me ashamed.
     
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  25. Testator

    Testator Member

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    I know about Brazil. I thought Mexico had far, far less people of Asian descent. Then again, it doesn't matter. We here have minuscule amounts of Asians that actually live here. Korean tourists though? They will end up being the biggest tourist group, surpassing Germans and Italians.
     

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