2018 CL/2019 CCL Qualifiers, transition [R]

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  1. fridge46

    fridge46 Member

    Oct 23, 2011
    RE: USA seedings. This in the 2018 SCCL regulations:

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  2. ArsenalMetro

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    Chicago, IL
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    So, based on that, the pass-down spot for USA1 (best aggregate record over two seasons) would get placed in Pot A despite winning nothing, while this year's MLS Cup winner would get placed in Pot B.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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  3. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A couple updates from Costa Rica: first, I'm barely literate. Here's the actual top of the full-year table:

    TABLA GENERAL ACUMULADA 2017-2018
    No. EQUIPO PJ PG PE PP GF GC G. dif PTS %
    1 [​IMG] HEREDIANO 44 29 12 3 75 26 49 99 75,00%
    2 [​IMG] SAPRISSA 44 26 9 9 93 48 45 87 65,91%
    3 [​IMG] SANTOS 44 21 16 7 76 44 32 79 59,85%
    4 [​IMG] ALAJUELENSE 44 21 11 12 84 56 28 74 56,06%

    So Alajuelense are actually up against it in terms of reaching the continental stage next season. After last night's results:

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    We are now guaranteed that the Clausura will be resolved in a two-legged Final.

    [​IMG]

    The problem for "Liga" is that with only two extra berths to fall down the full-year table, they're in line to be left out in the cold. So for Alajuelense, it's CCL-or-bust: they have to beat archrivals Saprissa at the Saprissa on Sunday to make the Final, then take out Herediano for the Clausura trophy. Anything less, and they'll be staying home next season. Good luck manudos :D
     
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  4. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    2019 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Sporting Kansas City [USA]
    2. Tigres UANL [MEX]
    3. CF Monterrey [MEX]
    4. Pérez Zeledón [CRC2]
    5. Alianza [SLV1]

    2018 CL Qualifiers

    1. Chorrillo FC [PAN2]
    2. Walter Ferretti [NCA]
    3. Real España [HON2]
    4. Herediano [CRC1 or CRC3]
    5. Motagua [HON1 or HON3]
    6. Marathón [HON1 or HON3]
    7. Olimpia [HON4]
    8. Árabe Unido [PAN1 or PAN3]
    9. Tauro [PAN1, PAN3 or PAN4]
    10. Santa Tecla FC [SLV2 or SLV3]
    11. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC1, CRC3 or CRC4]
    12. Atlético Pantoja (DOM) [CFU1 or CFU2]
    13. Arnett Gardens (JAM) [CFU1 or CFU2]
     
  5. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

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    Chicago, IL
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    How did the Dominican league become relevant so quickly? Like, 10 years ago it was a steady stream of Trini and Jamaican teams with the occasional interloper, and now we've got a Dominican champion and finalist in consecutive years.
     
  6. dinamo_zagreb

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    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
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    Croatia
    They started pro league with franchise clubs two-three years ago and it clearly works fine. :D
     
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  7. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Atletico Pantoja won penalty kicks 6-5 after a scoreless draw to qualify for the CCL. Jamaican clubs Arnett Gardens and Portmore United will go to the CL. Portmore United came back to beat Central FC 2-1 and send Central FC to a playoff against Club Franciscain of Martinique on Wednesday.
     
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  8. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fyp - I'm not bitter, though. :D FIFA also paid out of their own pocket to restore Haiti's national stadium, so I can't be a hypocrite ;)
     
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  9. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With thanks to fellow posters, let's get back on the roundup trail:

    NORTH AMERICA

    Mexico: Toluca and Santos Laguna emerged victorious in their respective semifinals, wrapping up the list of favorites/Mexican representatives in the next Champions League.

    CENTRAL AMERICA

    Belize: The final ended two days ago, and Wikipedia, the national press and Twitter have no reports on how it ended. Classic :ROFLMAO:

    Honduras: Motagua and Marathón tied at 1, rendering Saturday's second leg a de facto one-off Final.

    El Salvador:

    So it went.

    Costa Rica:

    Better luck next year, Liga :D

    [​IMG]

    Panama: This happened.





    CARIBBEAN

    H/T to @EvanJ , and congrats to the champs!



    Finally, for any newcomer confused on how we already have 16 teams for the Concacaf League: we still need to "graduate" one team each from Costa Rica, Panama and Honduras to the CCL. They will be replaced by the Belizean champ, the Nicaraguan Clausura winner and the fourth-place team out of the Caribbean.

    2019 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Sporting Kansas City [USA]
    2. Tigres UANL [MEX]
    3. CF Monterrey [MEX]
    4. Pérez Zeledón [CRC2]
    5. Alianza [SLV1]
    6. Toluca FC [MEX]
    7. Santos Laguna [MEX]
    8. Atlético Pantoja (DOM) [CFU1]


    2018 CL Qualifiers

    1. Chorrillo FC [PAN2]
    2. Walter Ferretti [NCA]
    3. Real España [HON2]
    4. Herediano [CRC1 or CRC3]
    5. Motagua [HON1 or HON3]
    6. Marathón [HON1 or HON3]
    7. Olimpia [HON4]
    8. Árabe Unido [PAN3]
    9. Tauro [PAN1 or PAN4]
    10. Santa Tecla FC [SLV2]
    11. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC1 or CRC3]
    12. Arnett Gardens (JAM) [CFU2]
    13. FAS [SLV3]
    14. Santos de Guápiles [CRC4]
    15. CAI de la Chorrera [PAN1 or PAN4]
    16. Portmore United (JAM) [CFU3]
     
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  10. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

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    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Soccerway doesn't say either. FlashScore has sections for 161 countries, but is missing a lot of CONCACAF such as Belize. CONCACAF's website doesn't say, but it does say that the CONCACAF League draw will be later this month.
     
  11. ArsenalMetro

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    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I found this on Twitter:



    If that's accurate (and given that it's the only thing I can find, I think it is), then the new semifinal second leg will be tomorrow, the first leg of the final will be on Thursday, and the second leg on Sunday.
     
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  12. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

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    I found more details!

    http://amandala.com.bz/news/deal-fair-play-plb-playoffs/

    It seems like a Belize Defence Force player scored a penalty, the referee ruled the goal out for some reason, and then refused to allow a re-take, so BDF appealed to the Belize Football Federation for a replay, which was granted...but only after the first leg of the final had already been played.

    Complain about USSF all you want, at least it's not that bad! :ROFLMAO:
     
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  13. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Caribbean playoff will take place tonight at 7:30 p.m.
     
  14. ArsenalMetro

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    The Belize semifinal second leg has been moved to tonight. :ROFLMAO:
     
  15. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And Club Franciscain have done it! They beat Central FC 2-1 and made history as the first club from a non-FIFA member to reach the continental stage in the CCL era.
     
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  16. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Updating the list accordingly now that I'm at a computer... :D

    Also, the first leg of the Costa Rican Clausura Final finished 1-1, so all to play for at the Saprissa on the weekend.

    2019 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Sporting Kansas City [USA]
    2. Tigres UANL [MEX]
    3. CF Monterrey [MEX]
    4. Pérez Zeledón [CRC2]
    5. Alianza [SLV1]
    6. Toluca FC [MEX]
    7. Santos Laguna [MEX]
    8. Atlético Pantoja (DOM) [CFU1]

    2018 CL Qualifiers

    1. Chorrillo FC [PAN2]
    2. Walter Ferretti [NCA]
    3. Real España [HON2]
    4. Herediano [CRC1 or CRC3]
    5. Motagua [HON1 or HON3]
    6. Marathón [HON1 or HON3]
    7. Olimpia [HON4]
    8. Árabe Unido [PAN3]
    9. Tauro [PAN1 or PAN4]
    10. Santa Tecla FC [SLV2]
    11. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC1 or CRC3]
    12. Arnett Gardens (JAM) [CFU2]
    13. FAS [SLV3]
    14. Santos de Guápiles [CRC4]
    15. CAI de la Chorrera [PAN1 or PAN4]
    16. Portmore United (JAM) [CFU3]
    17. Club Franciscain (MTQ) [CFU4]
     
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  17. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #67 Paul Calixte, May 18, 2018
    Last edited: May 19, 2018
    So Concacaf finally made an announcement about the CL! Let's check our homework, focusing on the least-straightforward calls:

    Chorrillo and Santa Tecla are stuck in the CL - called it! Not that hard, though.

    FAS are IN - called it!

    Santos de Guápiles are IN - called it!

    Alajuelense are OUT - called it! :D

    Pérez Zeledón are in - Wait a minute, what's this?

    Defending champion Olimpia are OUT - whoa. :eek::eek::eek:

    So what happened, here?

    In essence, Concacaf hasn't announced yet what it will do with Guatemala's CCL berth. My best guess is that with Guatemala's new regularization committee installed today, Concacaf is betting that the Guate Fed can get back in FIFA's good graces by December. If so, that's great news for Apertura champs Antigua GFC, who won the full-year table. Not so much for the national team, though, who are already out of next year's Gold Cup and, at best, will slum it in the bottom division of the CNL. Hey, maybe Carlos Ruiz will come out of retirement to run up the score on Anguilla and co. @edcalvi :D

    Finally, the draw will be Wednesday, May 23 at 7 pm US Eastern, to be shown on UDN in the US (I'll believe it when I see it) and FOX Sports in Latin America. The pots were also announced, and Belize 1 hilariously remain in Pot 1, likely cannon fodder against anyone save maybe Club Franciscain.

    EDIT: And now we have a name change to boot.



    2019 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Sporting Kansas City [USA]
    2. Tigres UANL [MEX]
    3. CF Monterrey [MEX]
    4. Alianza [SLV1]
    5. Toluca FC [MEX]
    6. Santos Laguna [MEX]
    7. Atlético Pantoja (DOM) [CFU1]
    8. Antigua GFC [GUA] *

    2018 CL Qualifiers

    1. UD Universitario [PAN2]
    2. Walter Ferretti [NCA]
    3. Real España [HON2]
    4. Herediano [CRC1 or CRC3]
    5. Motagua [HON1 or HON3]
    6. Marathón [HON1 or HON3]
    7. Árabe Unido [PAN3]
    8. Tauro [PAN1 or PAN4]
    9. Santa Tecla FC [SLV2]
    10. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC1 or CRC3]
    11. Arnett Gardens (JAM) [CFU2]
    12. FAS [SLV3]
    13. Santos de Guápiles [CRC4]
    14. CAI de la Chorrera [PAN1 or PAN4]
    15. Portmore United (JAM) [CFU3]
    16. Club Franciscain (MTQ) [CFU4]
    17. Pérez Zeledón [CRC2]
     
  18. edcalvi

    edcalvi Moderator
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    Atlético Madrid
    May 1, 2005
    Nevada
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    We suck so much that Carlos Ruiz is still the best we have LOL.

    And I find it impressive how informed you are about our federation problems! I heard Panama and Costa Rica will get out CCL spots!
     
  19. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #69 Paul Calixte, May 20, 2018
    Last edited: May 20, 2018
    Some updates from the weekend so far:

    First, a warm welcome back to the CCL for Marathón! Now, here's hoping they get drawn against a US club so we'll find out if they cleared their name with OFAC :eek:. FWIW their former president, Yankel Rosenthal, is still on the Clinton List.

    There, they will be joined by a debutant...



    Third, the Clausura Final in Nicaragua has been delayed due to the security situation there; the first leg may or may not be played tomorrow.

    https://www.facebook.com/nickybolanos/videos/vb.500612925/10157391713917926/?type=2&theater

    Finally, Verdes got upended in the replayed semifinal :ROFLMAO:



    Their hopes now rest with the very Defence Force that eliminated them, as the BDF can't qualify for the CL. If they manage to win the Closing Season Final, Verdes would advance as the champion with the better full-year record. But...



    2019 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Sporting Kansas City [USA]
    2. Tigres UANL [MEX]
    3. CF Monterrey [MEX]
    4. Alianza [SLV1]
    5. Toluca FC [MEX]
    6. Santos Laguna [MEX]
    7. Atlético Pantoja (DOM) [CFU1]
    8. Antigua GFC [GUA] *
    9. Marathón [HON1]
    10. CAI de la Chorrera [PAN1]


    2018 CL Qualifiers

    1. UD Universitario [PAN2]
    2. Walter Ferretti [NCA]
    3. Real España [HON2]
    4. Herediano [CRC1 or CRC3]
    5. Motagua [HON3]
    6. Árabe Unido [PAN3]
    7. Tauro [PAN4]
    8. Santa Tecla FC [SLV2]
    9. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC1 or CRC3]
    10. Arnett Gardens (JAM) [CFU2]
    11. FAS [SLV3]
    12. Santos de Guápiles [CRC4]
    13. Portmore United (JAM) [CFU3]
    14. Club Franciscain (MTQ) [CFU4]
    15. Pérez Zeledón [CRC2]
     
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  20. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
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    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://areyouwatchingthis.com/tv/stations/udnhd-univision-deportes-network-hd thinks UDN will show Univision Deportes Football Club then, but I think that can be moved for a live event.

    Arabe Unido is the Pot 2 club to avoid.
     
  21. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]

    Belize up next...

    2019 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Sporting Kansas City [USA]
    2. Tigres UANL [MEX]
    3. CF Monterrey [MEX]
    4. Alianza [SLV1]
    5. Toluca FC [MEX]
    6. Santos Laguna [MEX]
    7. Atlético Pantoja (DOM) [CFU1]
    8. Antigua GFC [GUA] *
    9. Marathón [HON1]
    10. CAI de la Chorrera [PAN1]
    11. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC1]

    2018 CL Qualifiers

    1. UD Universitario [PAN2]
    2. Walter Ferretti [NCA]
    3. Real España [HON2]
    4. Herediano [CRC3]
    5. Motagua [HON3]
    6. Árabe Unido [PAN3]
    7. Tauro [PAN4]
    8. Santa Tecla FC [SLV2]
    9. Arnett Gardens (JAM) [CFU2]
    10. FAS [SLV3]
    11. Santos de Guápiles [CRC4]
    12. Portmore United (JAM) [CFU3]
    13. Club Franciscain (MTQ) [CFU4]
    14. Pérez Zeledón [CRC2]
     
  22. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I should offer a correction on FAS: as last year's CL regulations state and Concacaf mentions here, FAS got in based on their full-year record among the semifinalists. That is, in Central American leagues save Costa Rica and Belize, continental berths left over after the half-season champions and runners-up are covered get distributed only among the losing semifinalists from each tournament. In FAS's case, while they were the best of the rest in the full-year table, they wouldn't have even been considered if they had not reached the Apertura or Clausura semifinals.
     
  23. edcalvi

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    Atlético Madrid
    May 1, 2005
    Nevada
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I would like to mention that CAI of Panama won their first ever championship in history by defeating the "big club" Tauro FC.

    Club Atlético Independiente was founded in the 1970s

     
  24. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

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    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  25. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    2019 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Sporting Kansas City [USA]
    2. Tigres UANL [MEX]
    3. CF Monterrey [MEX]
    4. Alianza [SLV1]
    5. Toluca FC [MEX]
    6. Santos Laguna [MEX]
    7. Atlético Pantoja (DOM) [CFU1]
    8. Antigua GFC [GUA] *
    9. Marathón [HON1]
    10. CAI de la Chorrera [PAN1]
    11. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC1]

    2018 CL Qualifiers

    1. UD Universitario [PAN2]
    2. Walter Ferretti [NCA]
    3. Real España [HON2]
    4. Herediano [CRC3]
    5. Motagua [HON3]
    6. Árabe Unido [PAN3]
    7. Tauro [PAN4]
    8. Santa Tecla FC [SLV2]
    9. Arnett Gardens (JAM) [CFU2]
    10. FAS [SLV3]
    11. Santos de Guápiles [CRC4]
    12. Portmore United (JAM) [CFU3]
    13. Club Franciscain (MTQ) [CFU4]
    14. Pérez Zeledón [CRC2]
    15. Belmopan Bandits [BLZ]
     

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