2017 NASL Attendance thread

Discussion in 'NASL' started by msilverstein47, Jan 9, 2017.

  1. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have purpose again! :)
     
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  3. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mr. McQuack we all certainly need a reason to get out of bed in the morning...so if US minor-league attendance numbers does the trick for you...I say that whatever works is a really good thing!!!
     
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  4. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    Any predictions ???
     
  5. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, they lost three of the top four drawing teams from last year, but also lost two of the bottom three. Remove the teams that have departed, the remainders averaged 4,610 last year.

    Team-by-team:

    Minnesota......8,573 (GONE)
    Indy...........8,396 (Good chance to lead the league, but have to reverse decline)
    Tampa Bay......5,878 (GONE)
    Ottawa.........5,482 (GONE)
    Miami..........5,427 (Remains to be seen)
    Carolina.......5,058 (New owner with ambition and a full off-season, may improve)
    Puerto Rico....3,801 (I remain skeptical)
    New York.......3,775 (Supposedly location will help, but it's still a ballpark and still the Cosmos)
    Jacksonville...3,499 (League-run teams often struggle to spend enough to draw)
    Rayo OKC.......3,242 (GONE)
    FC Edmonton....2,060 (By this point, is there any real reason to believe they can draw?)
    Ft Lauderdale..1,343 (GONE)
    NASL TOTAL.....4,736

    San Francisco is the real wild card. Is it true Kezar's current configuration seats 10k? We are in an era where expansion clubs can really surprise you and draw amazingly well (like Sacramento and Cincinnati), but I have no read on the expertise of the front office. The Deltas could do either way. They could get Indy-like crowds (or better, if Kezar actually seats that many) or could get California Victory-type crowds.

    Early prediction would be the league sees a slight improvement to 5k a game, but it's still a bit early to put anything behind that.
     
  6. MLSinSTL

    MLSinSTL Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 20, 2009
    Ohio - near a city
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  7. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    6,058 in Norh Carolina
     
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  8. Bklyn Royals Fan

    United States
    Jan 17, 2008
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ATTENDANCE: 5,692 in PR
     
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  9. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. CFLRowdiesFan

    CFLRowdiesFan Member

    Sep 22, 2016
    League average 5294 for the three matches.

    Next week, it's the home debuts for Indy, the Cosmos and Jacksonville. Indy should be good, the Cosmos can't do much worse and Jacksonville is again playing a home match on a Sunday - but at least won't be cutting any $70,000 checks.
     
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  12. jeffcoop

    jeffcoop BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 11, 2006
    Central Indiana
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Indy's game on Saturday is an afternoon start--they're doing several of these in the early spring. It will be interesting to see if it affects attendance. From my perspective, the afternoon is an improvement in the early spring--there will be warmer temperatures, at least. But I don't think I'm the typical demographic.
     
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  13. The One X

    The One X Member+

    Sep 9, 2014
    Indiana
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    I think the cold and weather played a major role in last years season opener not selling out. I could easily see it improving attendance by playing at a warmer time of day. Outside of temperature I think in general 3pm vs 7pm doesn't matter for most adults.
     
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  14. IceFunk

    IceFunk Member

    Oct 22, 2005
    Beaverton, Oregon
    Little disappointed in SF, then again....I don't think they inflated their numbers, stadium looked decently filled...could have easily been reported 6k or 7k as compared to some others who embellish (like RGV Toros, holy cow...)

    However, attendance is not the be all and end all when we are talking a few thousand. If SF can remain at a respectable number and pull in decent sponsorship and grow in the areas that they are lacking in, they will be alright.
     
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  15. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Except sponsors and all the other things flow from ticket sales.

    If they only sell a few thousand tickets a game, with their expenses and travel, they're toast.
     
  16. The One X

    The One X Member+

    Sep 9, 2014
    Indiana
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Code:
    Team                          Season Average(2016)          Weekly Total
    Carolina Railhawks            6058(5114)                    6058
    Puerto Rico FC                5692(3801)                    5692
    San Francisco Deltas          4133                          4133
    
                                  Season Average (Mean-Median)  Week Average
    NASL 2017                     5294-6058                     5294
    NASL 2016                     4713-4412
    Difference                    581 1646
    
    NASL Spring2017               5294
    NASL Spring2016               5071
    Difference                    223
    
    League Total 2017             15883(3 games)
    League Total 2016             862532(183 games)
    
     
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  17. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I tuned in to the start (20 minutes or so) of the PR/NYC match ... if 5692 people showed up ... 4900 of them showed up after the first 20m
     
  18. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. The One X

    The One X Member+

    Sep 9, 2014
    Indiana
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    At the game they announced it was a sellout.
     
  20. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    6,274 for the Cosmos.

    Which is above average, obviously.

    If they can average that in Brooklyn, fine. But they have never maintained an opening day crowd.

    Looks like they put down a field, though, so good for them, though if they did, that's expensive.
     
  21. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Field didn't look particularly great either.
     
  22. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That baseball field is particularly onerous, though.
     
  23. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. jeffcoop

    jeffcoop BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 11, 2006
    Central Indiana
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I had to leave before they announced the attendance. But from my perspective, it looks like an impressive crowd, but not a sell-out. of course, there are always tickets sold that are not used. But I think I saw too many gaps for that to be the full explanation.
     
  25. The One X

    The One X Member+

    Sep 9, 2014
    Indiana
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Yeah, I'm confused by the number. Either that is turnstile, which I could believe, or they are artificially restricting how many tickets they are selling? That seems unlikely.
     

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