2017 Matchday #9: Union v Red Bulls, May 6, 2017 p/d/p (R)

Discussion in 'Philadelphia Union' started by cwelch999, Apr 30, 2017.

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Predict The Outcome: Union v. Red Bulls

Poll closed May 7, 2017.
  1. Win

    11.1%
  2. Loss

    84.1%
  3. Tie

    4.8%
  1. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #26 WVUPharm2007, May 2, 2017
    Last edited: May 2, 2017

    Since we are getting close, we really need to decide what we are going with on this.

    Are we going to say the Union have 16 straight winless or 15 straight regular season winless right now? Based on MLS, they officially track regular season only in their media guide.

    Also, are we going with NYM/NYRB having the record of 19 winless or are we including shootout victories included as wins, making the record 18? Again, MLS has the "official" record at 18.

    This is important. It's really the only interesting thing the team had going on right now. I don't want to celebrate being a part of history a week too soon.

    PERSONALLY, I think we should go with the MLS standard of 15 current/18 record.

    But what do the rest of you think?
     
  2. Panuar

    Panuar Member

    Apr 25, 2015
    Oklahoma City OK
    Club:
    Gamba Osaka
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think we'll beat Houston on a Wednesday night in front of about 3 people in the stands. Bringing our total to either 17 or 18 depending on whether you count the playoff loss. Thus either loosing the attempt at the record or tying it. It's the perfect Uniony outcome.
     
  3. slitz

    slitz Member+

    Feb 19, 2005
    Red City, 140
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In Earnie's World the streak is only 8. Apparently last season didn't count
     
  4. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree go with our streak being at 15 and the record 18. Funny enough we play Colorado to break the record. Seems destined almost.
     
  5. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #30 Union42, May 2, 2017
    Last edited: May 2, 2017
    I vote for 15/19. I want our presumed record to stand up to all scrutiny and debate, so the standard should be defined in the most restrictive way possible. I don't want to be Roger Maris and have an asterisk after our name in the record books. There should be no question when I debate this with Red Bull fans 30 years from now that the Union had the longest streak ever, period. We all know how New York fans are about the records of their heroes. They tried to downplay Cal Ripken's streak when Lou Gehrig's record was under assault. They love to argue for the sake of arguing. I want to be able to have the last word on this, no matter how you slice it.
     
  6. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I count the playoff game.... the Union marked 2016 off as a successful season because they made the playoffs, they pumped up the 2017 season because we made the playoffs last year and were going to build off of it. If the team gives a one and done playoff appearance that clout than we should certainly be counting it.

    It was a competitive game against MLS competition. Hell, even if you count pre-season games against MLS competition we still haven't won. Only wins since August have been against the USMNT U-17s, the Tampa Bay Rowdies and a closed door scrimmage against Bethlehem.

    It's pathetic no matter how you slice it.... 15/16.. doesn't matter.
     
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  7. ericlfd

    ericlfd Member+

    Nov 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Rain all day Saturday. I don't even want to go ha.
     
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  8. ScottyMac26

    ScottyMac26 Member+

    Jan 13, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Ours is worse. We took months off to bring in new talent, train, rest, heal, and we still failed.
     
  9. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's what the Tampa Bay Rowdies are for. Big fat February asterisk.
     
  10. amusiccale

    amusiccale Member

    Apr 27, 2011
    KS, formerly 114
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
  11. OwlSaver

    OwlSaver Member+

    Jan 26, 2005
    Berwyn, PA (127, J)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    17? 18? How far can the Union go? I'm guessing 24 for no other reason than I like the number.
     
  12. LimeTree

    LimeTree Member+

    Oct 22, 2007
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    The Vincibles.
     
  13. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Touchables
     
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  14. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From an objective perspective, the Union have a very favorable May schedule:

    -5/6 Home vs. NY (Red Bulls play mid-week game in SKC, Union have no mid-week game)

    -5/13 At DCU (other than win at ATL last week, DC has been below average this season)

    -5/17 Home vs. Houston (Houston likely will rest players in a mid-week game)

    -5/20 Home vs. Colorado (Last place in West, more losses than the Union, COL play mid-week in CHI)

    -5/27 At RSL (More losses than the Union)

    The combined record of the next 5 opponents is 15-19-7 with 3 of the next 5 games at home with two very favorable match-ups (home games with the opponent traveling after playing away 3 or 4 days earlier).

    Come June 1, the Union should be in a much better position in the standings. If not, they will be contenders for the worst team in MLS history.
     
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  15. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NYRB, DCU, Houston, Colorado, RSL ... each of those teams have better individual, respective records than the Union. In other words, the U's next five games are against better teams.

    I'd be willing to be that Marsch, Olsen, et al are looking at playing the Union as very favorable.
     
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  16. aztec21bas

    aztec21bas BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 24, 2009
    Mullica Hill, NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    nah..... too pedo!
     
  17. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The U's next 26 games are against better teams.
     
  18. LuckyStriker

    LuckyStriker Member+

    Favorite club? a German one..........
    Apr 14, 2010
    in exile-Statute of Limitations yet to expire
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Lunchables. Big Bull gotta eat............
     
  19. EdBacon

    EdBacon Member+

    Apr 6, 2015
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    The only question we should be asking ourselves this year is whether or not we can top the DC United 2013 squad for abject failure.
     
  20. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd take an Open Cup win.
     
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  21. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can't make it. Someone please record the show. It should be amusing. Thx.
     
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  22. EdBacon

    EdBacon Member+

    Apr 6, 2015
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    You weren't specific enough with that request. Now they'll win the first two games against Rochester and Harrisburg before being downed by their first MLS opponent.
     
  23. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This was supposed to go in the town hall thread. Someone record that.
     
  24. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    You're really lucky Jimmy and Cristhian aren't on the team anymore.
     
  25. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They wouldn't do this, but it would be absolute Twitter gold if the Union interns were to take just missing out on the all-time winless record and spin it into some sort of positive.
     
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