Pre-match: 2017 Confederations Cup Playoff: USA vs Mexico, October 10th 2015

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  1. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Awful Gold Cup. Hope we do better in this game.
     
  2. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not holding my breath for this one.
     
  3. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm optimistic. I just hope Jurgen trots out the tried and tested Besler-Gonzo combo with Howard behind them. Mexico hasn't lit the world on fire, and I like our chances in a rematch with Jamaica
     
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  4. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My July 25th XI:

    ---------------------------Jozy------------------------
    -------Zardes----------Dempsey---------Bedoya------
    ----------------Beckerman--------Bradley--------------(I might replace Mixx with Beckerman if we play Jamaica)
    --Beasley---Besler-----------Gonzalez----Johnson---
    ----------------------Howard---------------------------------
     
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  5. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's too early to pick a lineup at this point. The new coach may have a different tastes and may shake things up a bit.
     
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  6. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd be stunned if that happens
     
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  7. Android Cat

    Android Cat Member+

    Sep 16, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    --------------------------------------ALTIDORE----------------------------------

    ------JOHNSON--------------------DEMPSEY---------------DISKERUD-------

    --------------------BECKERMAN-----------------BRADLEY--------------------

    BEASLEY??!-----------BESLER-----------------GONZALEZ----------YEDLIN

    --------------------------------------HOWARD-----------------------------------
     
  8. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
     
  9. Nyghtewynd

    Nyghtewynd I'd Rather Walk Alone

    May 30, 2006
    St. Louis, MO
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He also said the roster won't change much. Another 90 minutes of John Brooks, ladies and gentlemen!
     
  10. FidelCashflow

    FidelCashflow Member

    Charlotte FC
    United States
    May 17, 2014
    NC
    Club:
    Charlotte
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    --------------------------------Jozy-----------------------------------
    -----Zardes------------------Dempsey------------Nagbe-----------
    ----------------Kitchen------------------Bradley---------------------
    ---Garza------------Besler-------------Gonzo------------Johnson--
    --------------------------------Guzan-----------------------------------

    Yedlin, Mix and Finlay would be top subs too.
     
  11. KennyWoo

    KennyWoo Member

    May 21, 2007
    Pasadena, California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Will Frankie Hejduk come out of retirement to play fullback for us in this match? I'd honestly trust him over just about anyone else not named Johnson.

    I was hoping Chandler would get sent off today during the fracas so Klinsmann could not pick him for this match.
     
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  12. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Everyone with the above, watched a different game than I did today...
     
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  13. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Honestly, I wasn't playing that close attention. I think people are harsh on Alvarado and to a lesser extent Brooks. I think they're fine young players with a lot of potential who could even be backups. I just think the Gonzo - Besler pairing worked well in CONCACAF qualifying and I'm not sure why we ever felt the need to go away from it. Gonzo may have not played well (though Brooks was at fault for the goal), but I still trust him more than most of our center backs
     
  14. Jeff Wineberg

    Jeff Wineberg Member

    Aug 21, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    This. I understand from Klinsmann's perspective how Alvarado/Brooks together is the "sexier" choice by virtue of youth and pedigree, but the old adage of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" seems exceedingly fitting in this case.
     
  15. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    It's pitchfork time.
     
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  16. BS49

    BS49 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    Drinking a beer
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Mexico will have Chicharito, Moreno, and Gio back for that game. And hopefully a new coach. Also the Euro's will be in season then. The players now looked unfit due to the layoff. Most other Gold Cup teams players mostly play in the MLS and are in mid season form. Frankly I think Jamaica wins tomorrow anyways. No Chicharito, Vela, Moreno, Gio, and now I heard Jona Dos Santos and Guardado might be out. Mexico is a deep team but it will be hard to field a competitive team after all these lost starters.
     
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  17. doogiemo

    doogiemo Member

    Aug 11, 2005
    ohh USA, USA USA USA
    Only God knows what the contract extension caluse look like! Still think that extension, that early, was a mistake...

    Anybody else share those thoughts?
     
  18. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    That could hardly be considered debatable.
     
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  19. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    chandler/alvarado/brooks will start- the rest wont matter. having come within one match of the confederations cup sunil will have another extension ready by october 10.
     
  20. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #20 Berks, Jul 26, 2015
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2015
    Was better than the guy to his left. And the guy that played earlier in the tournament.

    And that's saying something, because he didn't have a great game today.

    But I trust him 1,000x more than the other two mostly because I know what kind of season he's having in MLS.
     
  21. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Beckerman was so bad in the Gold Cup. I do like the addition of Besler. It was clear that Brooks and Alvardo just aren't ready. They may be the pairing at some point, but this past month was too soon for them. What we really need is some actual wing play.
     
  22. fldore

    fldore Member

    Jul 12, 2015
    Whitehorse, YT
    Club:
    Jacksonville United FC
    If Brooks is anywhere near the stadium, let alone playing, it's proof that Klinsmann will put a lesser team on the field due to his own personal vendetta's. Any remaining doubt should be completely eliminated.
     
  23. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Based on what measure?

    He's made plenty of mistakes this season in MLS like the ones he made yesterday and that you and other attack Alvarado for making.
     
  24. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I'm not sure about the coach's "personal vendettas", but the crowd that doesn't like does seem go after every new player he selects. The analysis of Brooks, Alvarado, Ibarra, woods, etc are always significantly harsher than the other guys.

    As for Besler, I think he was done right after the WC. It was clear after the Belgium game that he couldn't handle strikers like that. Brooks has been the plan since then. Brooks is why we didn't win this tournament, but Besler is the answer?
     
  25. fldore

    fldore Member

    Jul 12, 2015
    Whitehorse, YT
    Club:
    Jacksonville United FC
    Thats coaching. If Besler is better right now, play him in important games. Play him in the elimination games. If Brooks is the future but makes too many mistakes now, let him play in friendlies and hex games. Games where he can learn and gain experience but not cost us.

    The guy was pitiful yesterday. Besler didnt play that poorly against Belgium.
     
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