2016 U.S. Open Cup

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by newtex, Feb 5, 2016.

  1. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    The 2016 format, dates, and list of teams are out. The USSF has increased the number of amateur teams a couple of time this winter. It is up to 48 teams.

    Now there are:
    PDL - 19 teams
    NPSL - 15 teams
    Qualifying Tournament - 14 teams

    http://www.uslsoccer.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=32800&ATCLID=210689632

    Round 1: (May 11) 48 amateur teams, 24 games
    Round 2: (May 18) 24 winners and 18 USL teams, 21 games
    Round 3: (June 1) 21 winners plus 9 NASL teams, 15 games
    Round 4: (June 15) 15 winners plus 17 MLS teams, 16 games
    Final 16 Draw: (June 16)
    Round of 16: (June 29) 16 winners, 8 games
    Quarterfinals: (July 20) 8 winners, 4 games
    Semifinals: (August 10) 4 winners, 2 games
    Final: (September 21) 2 winners, 1 game

    Also, these teams cannot face each other until the Final:
    • Houston Dynamo (MLS), Rio Grande Valley FC (USL)
    • New York Red Bulls (MLS), New York Red Bulls U-23 (PDL)
    • Portland Timbers (MLS), Portland Timbers U-23 (PDL)
    • Seattle Sounders FC (MLS), Sounders FC U-23 (PDL)
     
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  2. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    What is the relationship between the U23 PDL teams and their MLS parent teams?

    How is it different the the "2/b" teams that can't play in the Open Cup?
     
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  3. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The difference with the PDL teams is that there are no complications with roster overlap--an MLS player can't be loaned to a PDL team. Still it seems they would rather not have teams under the same ownership facing each other.
     
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  4. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm expecting another NASL fiasco again this year. I think we'll again see most of their teams focus on the end of the spring half rather then the Open Cup.
     
  5. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
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  6. EvilTree

    EvilTree Member+

    Canadian S.C
    Canada
    Nov 20, 2007
    Frozen Swampland, Soviet Canuckistan
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Anyone know whether some of the games will be streamed for the first 2 rounds?
     
  7. El Naranja

    El Naranja Member+

    Sep 5, 2006
    Alief
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Iirc last year they streamed a game of the round. Id expect them to do at least that again.
     
  8. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Some teams will, some teams won't, and US Soccer will probably broadcast a few, as referenced before.
     
  9. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Last year about half of the 1st round wound up streamed. The majority of the 2nd round games were streamed. We probably won't get a good list until a day or so before the games.
     
  10. asoc

    asoc Member+

    Sep 28, 2007
    Tacoma
    Sounders U23 team is not owned by the Sounders. The relationship really only appears to be one of branding at this point. The coach doesn't even work for the Sounders organization anymore.
     
  11. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    The 2016 tournament starts tonight.

    And we've had a disqualification. NTX Rayados are out. Corinthians of San Antonio moves on.

    http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/201...c-of-san-antonio-advance-to-usoc-second-round

    NTX Rayados (TX)(USASA) 0-1 Corinthians FC San Antonio (TX)(NPSL)

    First Round

    These are home team first. Times are EDT.

    Wednesday, May 11
    Richmond Strikers (VA)(NPSL) v. Aromas Cafe FC (VA)(USASA) 5:00 pm
    The Villages SC (FL)(PDL) v. Kraze United (FL)(NPSL) 5:00 pm
    Fredericksburg FC (VA)(NPSL) v. West Chester United (PA)(USASA) 5:30 pm
    Miami Fusion (FL)(NPSL) v. Boca Raton FC (FL)(USASA) 7:00 pm
    Indy Eleven NPSL (IN) (NPSL) v. Cincinati Dutch Lions FC (OH) (PDL) 7:00 pm
    Clarkstown SC Eagles (NY)(NPSL) v. Jersey Express (NJ)(PDL) 7:00 pm
    Charlotte Eagles (NC)(PDL) v. Myrtle Beach Mutiny (SC)(NPSL) 7:00 pm
    Reading United (PA)(PDL) v. Atlanta Silverbacks Reserves (GA)(NPSL) 7:00 pm
    Michigan Bucks (MI)(PDL) v. Detroit City (MI)(NPSL) 7:30 pm
    New York Pancyprian Freedoms (NY)(USASA) v. NY Red Bulls U23 (NJ)(PDL) 7:30 pm
    Long Island Rough Riders (NY)(PDL) v. Lansdowne Bhoys (NY)(USASA) 7:30 pm
    Southie FC (MA)(USASA) v. Seacoast United Phantoms (NH)(PDL) 8:00 pm
    GPS Portland Phoenix (ME)(PDL) v. AFC Cleveland (OH)(NPSL) 8:00 pm
    Mississippi Brilla FC (MS)(PDL) v. CD Motagua New Orleans (LA)(USASA) 8:00 pm
    FC Wichita (KS)(NPSL) v. Des Moines Menace (IA)(PDL) 8:00 pm
    Albuquerque Sol FC (NM)(PDL) v. Harpos FC (CO)(USSSA) 8:30 pm
    Sacramento Gold (CA)(NPSL) v. Burlingame Dragons FC (CA)(PDL) 10:00 pm
    Ventura County Fusion (CA)(PDL) v. LA Wolves (CA)(USASA) 10:00 pm
    FC Tucson (AZ)(PDL) v. San Nicolas FC (CA)(USASA) 10:30 pm
    San Francisco City FC (CA)(USCS) v. CD Aguiluchos USA (CA)(NPSL) 10:30 pm
    Portland Timbers FC U23 (OR)(PDL) v. La Maquina (CA)(USASA) 10:30 pm
    Seattle Sounders U23 (WA)(PDL) v. Outbreak Soccer (CA)(USASA) 10:30 pm
     
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  12. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Go Fusion!
     
  13. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So the Dayton Dutch Lions moved to Cincinnati? If they are Dutch, shouldn't they be "de leeuwen?"
     
  14. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    They didn't move. The Cincinnati Dutch Lions started in 2013 and are a sister club to the Dayton Dutch Lions. They also have a team here in Houston also known as the Dutch Lions.
     
  15. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    France
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Who knew there were so many lions in Dutchland!

    (I know it's actually called The Netherlands - het Nederlands to be precise - and that the lion is a prominent symbol there and in Flanders, not to mention England as well as on the Scottish coat of arms. It's just rather odd when you think about it, given those countries didn't have lions.)
     
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  16. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
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  17. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #17 mbar, May 11, 2016
    Last edited: May 11, 2016
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  18. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As opposed to the dragon population of Wales?
     
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  19. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also, Rio Grande Valley had previously withdrawn from the tournament, so that takes USL participation down to 17. Though their business operations were separate from the on-field stuff (run by the Dynamo), but they didn't want to be considered as different from other MLS-affiliated USL teams. Which makes sense if the relevant concerns were more about player eligibility than ownership.
     
  20. JoeCelt

    JoeCelt Member+

    Jul 7, 2012
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    2016 US Open Cup schedule, results :thumbsup:

    AET Richmond Strikers 1-2 Aromas Cafe
    FT The Villages SC 1-0 Kraze United
    AET Fredericksburg 1-1 West Chester United *
    FT Clarkstown SC Eagles 1-2 Jersey Express
    Int. Indy Eleven 1-0 Cincinnati Dutch Lions
    FT Reading United A.C. 2-0 Atlanta Silverbacks
    AET Charlotte Eagles 3-2 Myrtle Beach Mutiny
    AET Long Island Rough Riders 1-2 Lansdowne Bhoys FC
    AET Michigan Bucks 0-0 Detroit City FC *
    AET Miami Fusion 4-1 Boca Raton
    FT NY Pancyprian Freedoms 2-1 New York Red Bulls U23
    FT GPS Portland Phoenix 0-1 AFC Cleveland
    FT Mississippi Brilla 2-0 CD Motagua of New Orleans
    FT Southie FC 2-0 Seacoast United Phantoms
    FT FC Wichita 1-2 Des Moines Menace
    FT Albuquerque Sol FC 0-2 Harpo's FC
    AAW North Texas Rayados 0-3 Corinthians
    FT Sacramento Gold 3-1 Burlingame Dragons FC
    FT San Francisco City FC 0-3 CD Aguiluchos
    FT Ventura County Fusion 2-1 Los Angeles Wolves
    FT FC Tucson 3-0 San Nicolas FC
    FT Portland Timbers U23 0-2 La Maquina FC
    AET Seattle Sounders FC U23 3-1 Outbreak FC

    @DetroitCityFC @NGSDetroit - THIS IS HOW YOU SMOKENADO :)
    [​IMG]
     
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  21. terrier

    terrier Member

    May 31, 2011
    Netherlands
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nederlanders praten Nederlands in Nederland. (The country is not "het Nederlands," just Nederland. "Nederlands" is the name of the language spoken there.)

    The history of the lion as a heraldic symbol is long and boring, and basically comes down to "lions are badasses fabled in, er, fables, with whom one should never mess, so I'm going to put some on my shield."
     
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  22. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    First round advancement:

    Home teams went 12-10 (12-11 counting the forfeit) on advancement.

    By affiliation:
    USSSA 1-0
    PDL 9-9
    NPSL 7-7
    USASA 6-6
    USCS 0-1

    In the head-to-head PDL v. NPSL games, the PDL went 5-4.
     
  23. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Second Round
    Home team first. Times are EDT.
    USL teams enter the tournament.

    Wednesday, May 18
    West Chester United (PA)(USASA) v. Harrisburg City Islanders 7:00 pm
    FC Cincinnati v. Indy Eleven NPSL (IN)(NPSL) 7:00 pm
    Charlotte Eagles (NC)(PDL) v. Charlotte Independence 7:00 pm
    Richmond Kickers v. Aromas Cafe FC (VA)(USASA) 7:00 pm
    Wilmington Hammerheads v. Miami Fusion (FL)(NPSL) 7:00 pm
    Louisville City v. Detroit City (MI)(NPSL) 7:00 pm
    Rochester Rhinos v. Southie FC (MA)(USASA) 7:00 pm
    Pittsburgh Riverhounds v. Lansdowne Bhoys (NY)(USASA) 7:00 pm
    Charleston Battery v. The Villages SC (FL)(PDL) 7:30 pm
    Chattanooga FC (NPSL) v. Reading United (PA)(PDL) 7:30 pm
    NY Pancyprian Freedoms (USASA) v. Jersey Express (PDL) 7:30 pm
    Saint Louis FC v. AFC Cleveland (OH)(NPSL) 8:00 pm
    San Antonio FC v. Corinthians FC San Antonio (TX)(NPSL) 8:00 pm
    Mississippi Brilla FC (PDL) v. OKC Energy 8:00 pm
    Des Moines Menace (IA)(PDL) v. Tulsa Roughnecks 8:30 pm
    La Maquina (CA)(USASA) v. Sacramento Gold(CA)(NPSL) 9:00 pm
    Colorado Springs Switchbacks v. Harpos FC (CO)(USSSA) 9:00 pm
    Ventura County Fusion (CA)(PDL) v. Orange County Blues 10:00 pm
    Kitsap Pumas v. Seattle Sounders U23 (WA)(PDL) 10:30 pm
    Sacramento Republic v. CD Aguiluchos USA (CA)(NPSL) 10:30 pm
    FC Tucson (AZ)(PDL) v. Arizona United 10:30 pm

    The Third Round is June 1
     
  24. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    We might have a change in the USOC results from last night.

    http://thecup.us/2016/05/12/la-wolv...er-us-open-cup-loss-to-ventura-county-fusion/

     
  25. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was writing up exactly this. It's surprising just how even it was, given that I've seen PDL/NPSL as being a cut above other amateur operations, and the PDL/NPSL teams had a disproportionate number of home games.

    Current underdog preference is Harpo's, the sole USSSA team in the cup.
     

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