07/13/2016 Columbus Crew v Toronto FC MAPFRE Stadium (7:00pm ET) REF: ROBERT SIBIGA AR1: Jeff Muschik AR2: James Conlee 4TH: Fotis Bazakos New York Red Bulls v Orlando City Red Bull Arena (7:30pm ET) REF: SORIN STOICA AR1: Kermit Quisenberry AR2: Jose Da Silva 4TH: Mark Kadlecik Chicago Fire v Sporting Kansas City Toyota Park (8:30pm ET) REF: NIMA SAGHAFI AR1: Kyle Atkins AR2: Gianni Facchini 4TH: Alan Kelly Seattle Sounders v FC Dallas CenturyLink Field (10:30pm ET) REF: RICARDO SALAZAR AR1: Peter Balciunas AR2: Corey Rockwell 4TH: Dave Gantar Portland Timbers v Montreal Impact Providence Park (10:30pm ET) REF: ALLEN CHAPMAN AR1: Jeremy Hanson AR2: Mike Rottersman 4TH: Juan Guzman Vancouver Whitecaps v Real Salt Lake BC Place (10:30pm ET) REF: JOSE CARLOS RIVERO AR1: Adam Wienckowski AR2: Michael Kampmeinert 4TH: Baboucarr Jallow 07/15/2016 LA Galaxy v Houston Dynamo StubHub Center (11:00pm ET) REF: MARK GEIGER AR1: Eric Boria AR2: Logan Brown 4TH: Alex Chilowicz 07/16/2016 Columbus Crew v D.C. United MAPFRE Stadium (7:30pm ET) REF: SILVIU PETRESCU AR1: Oscar Mitchell-Carvalho AR2: Jeffrey Greeson 4TH: Daniel Radford FC Dallas v Chicago Fire Toyota Stadium (9:00pm ET) REF: BALDOMERO TOLEDO AR1: Kevin Klinger AR2: Chris Strickland 4TH: Edvin Jurisevic Colorado Rapids v Sporting Kansas City Dick's Sporting Goods Park (9:00pm ET) REF: DREW FISCHER AR1: Daniel Belleau AR2: Jonathan Johnson 4TH: Marcos DeOliveira Real Salt Lake v New England Revolution Rio Tinto Stadium (10:00pm ET) REF: ISMAIL ELFATH AR1: Craig Lowry AR2: Apolinar Mariscal 4TH: Jaime Herrera Vancouver Whitecaps v Orlando City BC Place (10:00pm ET) REF: HILARIO GRAJEDA AR1: Eduardo Mariscal AR2: Cameron Blanchard 4TH: Dave Gantar San Jose Earthquakes v Toronto FC Avaya Stadium (10:30pm ET) REF: ALEJANDRO MARISCAL AR1: Ian Anderson AR2: Adam Garner 4TH: Allen Chapman 07/17/2016 Portland Timbers v Seattle Sounders Providence Park (3:00pm ET) REF: JAIR MARRUFO AR1: Frank Anderson AR2: Jeff Hosking 4TH: Mark Geiger Montreal Impact v New York City Saputo Stadium (5:00pm ET) REF: ARMANDO VILLARREAL AR1: Joe Fletcher AR2: Matthew Nelson 4TH: Mathieu Bourdeau Philadelphia Union v New York Red Bulls Talen Energy Stadium (7:00pm ET) REF: ALAN KELLY AR1: Brian Dunn AR2: Eric Weisbrod 4TH: Robert Sibiga
2 big things that I notice right away. #1. Lots of games (16) this week #2. Alejandro Mariscal, who is listed as a 4O on the roster, gets his first MLS referee assignment since 2010
I thought I would never see the day, that Alex would get another middle in MLS. Well done. Has to be some kind of record for longest time between centers.
Next week is another Open Cup week, so its possible they are getting these extra games in now instead of trying to catch up later.
And maybe trying to exploit the quietest two days on the sporting calendar - Wednesday and Thursday after MLB's Allstar game. No MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL, NCAA...the only surprising thing to me is that it's not a full slate of MLS games.
Looks like studs go into him once while they are running, then again once they go to ground. Not playing the ball, above the ankle challenge, red card for me.
FC Dallas red card vs Seattle. Ball to hand? Natural position? Even though I answer yes to both of these I still think the red was the correct call and I felt he had time to get his hand out of the way and knew it was going to hit it. Thoughts? http://matchcenter.mlssoccer.com/ma...-sounders-fc-vs-fc-dallas/details/video/82455
What about the other red card in this one? Anyone thinking either red for both or yellow for both? It looks like the first foul is worse than the retaliation, but receives less punishment.
This is a very hard play to call. On the one hand (see what I did there?), the first foul is probably a caution. I think its likely the crew missed the elbow, and the caution was simply for the foul itself. At the same time, Dempsey smacked him in the head with both hands--he got him in the face and the back of the head. One of those being an accident, or the result of the force of the tackle, I buy. But both? So that's likely going to be red. On the other hand...Ortiz gets a caution for a totally punk foul that hit Dempsey with waaay more force than Dempsey retaliated with. So that's lame that Dempsey gets sent. I personally think two cautions would have been justice, but Dempsey has been around long enough to know that players like Ortiz gun for him to try and provoke him, and if he caves in Ortiz wins. Its lame, but the reality of life. I really think a deciding factor in Salazar's mind was that a RC evens things at 10. Although 9 v. 10 would have made it a fun game to watch.
For the record, I don't give a crap about either team, so I'm not trying to argue that Dempsey should not have been sent. I think with the Laws and directives we've been given, there wasn't much choice there. I just think it's unfortunate that the guy who commits arguable the worse offense continues to play. Not really justice. Trying to figure out the best way to handle these types of situations in the lower than MLS games that most of us do. And I do agree that catching the elbow, depending on where this is on the field and who can see the front side of this challenge, is going to be incredibly difficult.
Do you think Dempsey's rep worked against him? We've seen (at least since he's moved back to MLS) a number of occasions where he got an "extra shot" hidden as an accident in.
I feel like Ortiz sold that, a lot. Should Dempsey have swiped at him? No. Remember Jermaine Jones in the Copa last month. But did he hit him as hard as Ortiz made it out ? No. How about a yellow for Ortiz for the foul. Then a red to Dempsey for the contact to the head/face. Then second yellow to Ortiz for the flop. How would that have played out?
That would have been better justice, probably, but also impossible to sell. Honestly, I think Salazar got it exactly right. It's one of those situations that feels a little unfair, but by the rules it seems pretty obvious to me that Ortiz committed a reckless foul, and Dempsey reacted violently. Maybe you could argue that Ortiz comitted VC with the elbow, but I don't think I'd buy it, as wthout the Dempsey reaction we'd never see red for that challenge.
Anybody see the lone goal in this game? Chicago Fire v Sporting Kansas City REF: NIMA SAGHAFI 00:50 of the game review, turn up the sound: http://matchcenter.mlssoccer.com/matchcenter/2016-07-13-chicago-fire-vs-sporting-kansas-city/recap Very unclear whistling from Saghafi. Assuming all the whistle sounds come from the Ref, and not from the stands or elsewhere, this is not a clean restart. A couple of whistles usually means wait. Then, play restarts before the final tweet. Some KC players appeal, Vermes goes crazy (shocking!). Goal stands.
After the game Chapman admitted he got it wrong. What is interesting is I think this is his first game back to MLS action since the DeJong debacle... And here is another similar miss. I think his ability to admit his mistake is admirable. But, darn Portland has to be pissed that this happened again.
Thanks, I just haven't seen him then... I thought for some reason it seemed odd, but on my phone it was too tough to go back and look. Cheers!
You mean like 3 cases of VC in Copa America he all got away with? Maybe that's why he keeps hitting people in the face. He knows refs either miss it or don't have the balls to enforce the LOTG.
Let's not forget that Dempsey started the WC2010 Slovenia match by elbowing an opponent in the head 10 seconds into the match. If a red card had been given, he would have set the record for the quickest send off at a World Cup by a solid 30 seconds. It was an obvious straight red card, FIFA has since used the foul in their instruction clips to show it as an example of such a red card, but the referee, Coulibaly, didn't sanction it. I seem to remember him having trouble throughout that match.
First, I agree with Allen Chapman that the foul should have been a red card. Second, the FC Dallas send off was absolutely correct. I'd contend that it was deliberate. He moved his body, and his arm, to block that shot. Third, Dempsey's red. Man, that seems unjust. I'd be going yellow/yellow in a game I refereed. However, I'm not in the MLS (for a reason), and I don't know what the instruction this season has been on retaliatory contact to the face. There's no question that Dempsey hit Ortiz intentionally, though. Fourth: I saw the match, and I'm curious as to what others on the board think they should do here. There's a good learning point for restart management at a higher level. Here's what's going on: 1) There's a foul near the technical area, the referee does the right thing by heading to the proper position if there is a quick restart. 2) The defending team has a player standing within 3 yards of the restart. Obviously attempting to delay a quick restart without getting a caution. Oh, to make things even better, the defending team's coach is outside his technical area within 5 yards of the whole thing. 3) It's unclear if the attacking team asks for distance. Judging from the result of the play, they don't. Here, Nima Saghafi decides to use his whistle administratively to get SKC to back up, but he does this AS the ball is being played for a quick restart. Within 7-8 seconds, the ball is in the net. What should Nima and his crew do at this point? Allow the goal? Disallow the goal? What could he have done differently in the management of the restart? As to the "what do we do now" question: I'm not an instructor or an assessor, and I'm also from the Chicago area...so maybe I'm biased. But I think you kind of HAVE to allow the goal at that point in the interest of fairness. Teams that were fouled are entitled for quick free kicks. The defending team, on the other hand, is entitled to a fair restart. You have a team here (SKC) that fouled another team and is infringing on the laws of the game. You have the fouled team attempting to play quickly (Fire), and they successfully do so. The players don't stop playing as the quick restart is given, and SKC's defensive position was not jeopardized as a result of the referee's actions. The proximate cause of the goal wasn't confusion from the administrative whistle, it was just poor defending. Therefore, shouldn't you err on the side of attacking play and allow the goal? As to the "what should have happened" question: I'm kind of at a loss here as to what the best answer is. I suppose the simplest solution is to not do anything at all until the team asks for ten; but then you lose a bit of credibility by not enforcing the laws on encroachment early on in the match. If the solution is to "use presence," "use personality," or "use your voice," then the same result ensues. You've made the restart ceremonial, and the coach who is right there is going to go bonkers anyway. Once you've used your voice, or used your whistle, subsequently breaking up that promising attack because you jumped the gun on restart management is going to lose you a whole bunch of credibility as well.
1) In last night's Red Bulls/Orlando FC match, Sorin Stoica whistles a PK for a handball against Seb Hines, but the ball actually cracks him in the face. Understandable once you see how his arms go flailing out, and reverses the call (the Red Bulls scored on the corner kick restart anyway): http://matchcenter.mlssoccer.com/ma...-bulls-vs-orlando-city-sc/details/video/82249 In the audio, Messing is claiming it's the AR that informed him, but it appeared to me it was 4th official Kadlecik. 2) Quisenberry pops the flag for an offside late in the match, but an Orlando FC defender made a deliberate play for the ball and could have led to a Red Bulls breakaway. The glare Stoica gives him for several seconds is priceless (no video available for this one).