2016 Fire Roster Speculation

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by seamuslush, Sep 15, 2015.

  1. sWo97

    sWo97 Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nyarko is under contract and if all 9 players whose contract options are not picked and the 3 players out of contract are let go it's highly unlikely they will offload another 'core' player. If that's the case then they can just find a Euro club for Sean Johnson and pretend this club is a Hollywood reboot.

    There's a chance that a good amount of those declined and out of contract players will still be offered a spot here. if that's the case then maybe a trade to move Nyarko is plausible. Other than that, not happening and not our problem.
    Next subject.
     
  2. FrenFan

    FrenFan Member

    Jul 16, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    What is "a good amount", in your opinion? The Fire have never welcomed back more than two players whose options they declined in a season.

    Looking at the list, I expect that trend to continue.
     
  3. sWo97

    sWo97 Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not the point but if i were to predict, i'd say 4 or 5 will be offered a contract. I also did not use the word return.
     
  4. FrenFan

    FrenFan Member

    Jul 16, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I'd still doubt that, but even presuming you're correct, there's no real way of knowing who is offered a new contract. Mostly, the only thing that gets reported is who re-signs.
     
  5. cweimers

    cweimers Member+

    Mar 5, 2010
    DC
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. xtomx

    xtomx Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Full List of Free Agents. Anyone we want?
    http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2015/12/07/mls-announces-first-ever-class-free-agents
    The full list of 26 players eligible for free agency (previous team listed):

    GK Jon Busch (Chicago Fire)
    GK Troy Perkins (Seattle Sounders)
    GK Kyle Reynish (New York Red Bulls)
    GK Andrew Weber (Portland Timbers)

    DF Corey Ashe (Orlando City SC)
    DF Bobby Burling (Colorado Rapids)
    DF Ty Harden (Chicago Fire)
    DF Michael Harrington (Colorado Rapids)
    DF Stephen Keel (FC Dallas)
    DF Drew Moor (Colorado Rapids)
    DF James Riley (Colorado Rapids)

    MF Eric Avila (Orlando City SC)
    MF Brian Carroll (Philadelphia Union)
    MF Ricardo Clark (Houston Dynamo)
    MF Ned Grabavoy (New York City FC)
    MF Nick LaBrocca (Colorado Rapids)
    MF Jeff Larentowicz (Chicago Fire)
    MF Justin Mapp (Montreal Impact)
    MF Paulo Nagamura (Sporting Kansas City)
    MF Nathan Sturgis (Houston Dynamo)

    FW Chad Barrett (Seattle Sounders)
    FW Edson Buddle (LA Galaxy)
    FW Conor Casey (Philadelphia Union)
    FW Kenny Cooper (Montreal Impact)
    FW Alan Gordon (LA Galaxy)
    FW Mike Magee (Chicago Fire)

    I would take Magee back, maybe Burling (nice to have height in central defense), and one of the goalkeepers as back up.
    That's about it.

    ....and, of course, Chad f'n Barrett!!!! :rolleyes:
     
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  7. seamuslush

    seamuslush Member+

    Jun 18, 2005
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    http://www.mlssoccer.com/allocation

    We're #1 in the allocation ranking! Who should we try and get?

    Player
    Current club Classification
    Juan Anangono Leones Negros (MEX) Transfer
    Alejandro Bedoya Nantes (FRA) Senior USMNT
    Deshorn Brown Valerenga (NOR) Transfer
    Geoff Cameron Stoke City (ENG) Transfer
    Junior Flores Borussia Dortmund (GER) Youth USMNT
    Giancarlo Gonzalez Palermo (ITA) Transfer
    Julian Green Bayern Munich (GER) Youth USMNT
    Brad Guzan Aston Villa (ENG) Senior USMNT
    Doneil Henry West Ham Utd (ENG) Transfer
    Tim Howard Everton (ENG) Senior USMNT
    Aron Johannsson AZ Alkmaar (NED) Senior USMNT
    Fabian Johnson Borussia Monchengladbach (GER) Senior USMNT
    Fredy Montero Sporting Clube (POR) Transfer
    Shaquell Moore Huracan (ESP) Youth USMNT
    Andy Najar Anderlecht (BEL) Transfer
    Tim Ream Bolton (ENG) Transfer
    Alain Rochat BSC Young Boys (SWI) Transfer
    Oriol Rosell Sporting Clube (POR) Transfer
    Rubio Rubin FC Utrecht (NED) Youth USMNT
    Richard Sanchez UANL Tigres (MEX) Transfer
    Camilo Sanvezzo Queretaro (MEX) Transfer
    Jose Adolfo Valencia Independiente (ARG)
    (on loan from Rosario Central) Transfer
    DeAndre Yedlin Sunderland (ENG)
    (on loan from Tottenham) Transfer
     
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  8. seamuslush

    seamuslush Member+

    Jun 18, 2005
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Chad and Justin Mapp because I enjoy people yelling.
     
  9. seamuslush

    seamuslush Member+

    Jun 18, 2005
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2015/12/07/mls-announces-60-players-eligible-re-entry-draft

    Fire have first pick in thr re-entry draft Friday. Who do you want?

    GK Joe Bendik (Toronto FC)
    GK Josh Ford (Orlando City SC)
    GK Tally Hall (Orlando City SC)
    GK Alec Kann (Chicago Fire)
    GK Chris Konopka (Toronto FC)
    GK Matt Lampson (Columbus Crew SC)
    GK Zac MacMath (Philadelphia Union)
    GK Brian Perk (LA Galaxy)
    GK Donovan Ricketts (LA Galaxy)
    GK Paolo Tornaghi (Vancouver Whitecaps)

    DF Kevin Alston (New England Revolution)
    DF Jalil Anibaba (Sporting Kansas City)
    DF Steven Beitashour (Vancouver Whitecaps)
    DF Jeb Brovsky (New York City FC)
    DF Hassoun Camara (Montreal Impact)
    DF/MF Greg Cochrane (Chicago Fire)
    DF Leonardo Gonzalez (Seattle Sounders)
    DF Tony Lochhead
    DF Tommy Meyer (LA Galaxy)
    DF Roy Miller (New York Red Bulls)
    DF Pa Modou Kah (Vancouver Whitecaps)
    DF Lovel Palmer (Chicago Fire)
    DF Chris Schuler (Real Salt Lake)
    DF Zach Scott (Seattle Sounders)
    DF Seth Sinovic (Sporting Kansas City)
    DF Bakary Soumare (FC Dallas)
    DF Jordan Stewart (San Jose Earthquakes)
    DF Jermaine Taylor (Houston Dynamo)
    DF Anthony Wallace (New York Red Bulls)
    DF Kwame Watson-Siriboe (New York City FC)

    MF Carlos Alvarez (Colorado Rapids)
    MF/FW Tony Cascio (Orlando City SC)
    MF Warren Creavalle (Philadelphia Union)
    MF Danny Cruz (Philadelphia Union)
    MF Andy Dorman (New England Revolution)
    MF Michael Farfan (D.C United)
    MF Fred (Philadelphia Union)
    MF Boniek Garcia (Houston Dynamo)
    MF Jeremy Hall (New England Revolution)
    MF Jackson (Toronto FC)
    MF Alex Lopez (Houston Dynamo)
    MF Michel (FC Dallas)
    MF Michael Nanchoff (Portland Timbers)
    MF Lewis Neal (Orlando City SC)
    MF Marco Pappa (Seattle Sounders)
    MF Mauro Rosales (Vancouver Whitecaps)
    MF Matt Watson (Chicago Fire)

    FW Jairo Arrieta (D.C. United)
    FW Bright Dike
    FW Robbie Findley (Toronto FC)
    FW Mike Fucito (San Jose Earthquakes)
    FW Chandler Hoffman (Houston Dynamo)
    FW Antoine Hoppenot (Philadelphia Union)
    FW Jason Johnson (Chicago Fire)
    FW Danny Mwanga (Orlando City SC)
    FW Dane Richards (New York Red Bulls)
    FW Charlie Rugg (LA Galaxy)
    FW Vicente Sanchez (Colorado Rapids)
    FW Gabriel Torres (Colorado Rapids)
    FW Maximiliano Urruti (Portland Timbers)
     
  10. xtomx

    xtomx Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I was going to add Justin Mapp, just to piss off Khan, but thought better of it.
     
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  11. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    ANANGONO!
    * ducks *
     
  12. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    FREE TORNAGHI!
     
  13. lurak

    lurak Member+

    Aug 24, 2007
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    All of the players on these lists and I can't really think of anyone that I would want to have. The Free Agents are really just old and washed up. I would take Busch, Big Red, and Magee back provided that Big Red and Magee end up playing where they should.

    The re-entry draft is not very exciting either. Tornaghi coming back to back up SJ is not bad. Alston, Beitashour, and Sinovic as defenders seem ok. I don't think the Fire need someone like Boniek Garcia, but he and Jackson are probably the best of the midfield bunch unless you look at the older guys. And the forwards are not good except for maybe Urruti.

    And you can forget about the allocation list. Too expensive or just not coming to MLS and definitely not the Fire.

    That said, the Fire should probably not pass in the re-entry draft because it does seem like they should use their #1 pick somewhere.
     
  14. milicz

    milicz Member+

    Dec 2, 2001
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    I'd take Mapp in a heartbeat, he was fantastic in Montreal. I would bring Magee back as well.
     
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  15. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    I can't disagree, provided that they'd come back at friendlier prices as well, given their advanced ages. Magee's return would only be if Pauno plans to play a 2 forward formation. To do so in a 4-4-2, either Polster or Shipp likely would have to come off the bench, because neither are true box-to-box types in the center of midfield. [I'd like the fire to sign a starting-caliber CMF for a 5 man MF, regardless.]

    Given the truly craptacular nature of the defense, I'd think that there is more than one defender that is better than the immortal Eric Gehrig; I believe that as I type this, Eric fvkcing Gerhig is the best defender in the roster right now. In addition to the defenders that you listed here, I'd also think that Anibaba is better than Gehrig as well.

    People have to remember that the waiver/re-entry drafts aren't necessarily going to yield the "great" player in MLS so much as it will replace shitty players that were in the team with marginally less shitty ones. In other words, these drafts are to help make incremental improvements in an talent-deficient roster.
     
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  16. Old Man!

    Old Man! BigSoccer Supporter

    Chicago Fire SC
    Mar 11, 2000
    Depending on the price, I'd kick the tires on Beitashour, Sinovic and Jordan Stewart for defenders.
     
  17. RadioGonzo

    RadioGonzo Member+

    Nov 16, 2009
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No love for Jalil and Marco? I wouldn't mind either of them in round 2 for a bargain.
    Urruti has a big raise due so that's why he's on that list.
     
  18. FrenFan

    FrenFan Member

    Jul 16, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Beita, Sinovic and Jalil would all be worth taking fliers on.

    Remember that the first phase of Re Entry requires teams to take a player at their budgeted number for the next season. Second phase allows the two parties to negotiate.

    I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of those guys are taken this week, but could see someone still being available next week.
     
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  19. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    These drafts aren't how we're going to build a contender.
     
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  20. nowherenova

    nowherenova Member+

    Jul 20, 2003
    Formerly Terminus
    Yes to Beita or Sinovic
     
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  21. loonixxx

    loonixxx Member+

    Chicago Red Stars
    Aug 28, 2004
    Soccer Limbo
    Club:
    Jagiellonia Bialystok SSA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know where I said it (it's too early for me to remember things), but we need to fix the defense first. It's been abysmal for too long now. While we're at it I'd like for the Fire to FINALLY learn how to defend set pieces. For ********'s sake at least work on it.
     
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  22. thnkucomeagain

    thnkucomeagain Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    DF Steven Beitashour (Vancouver Whitecaps)

    is a no brainer. Solid RB
     
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  23. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I'd like Magee back but I'm guessing that well is poisoned.
     
  24. sWo97

    sWo97 Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chris Shuler. Probably won't be healthy all year but could be worth it in the second round. So maybe take Beitashour in the first.
     
  25. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I would definitely pick up some defenders to compete for starting slots. Anibaba was a center back remember? He was a centerback who was played out of position on the right and then we all complained about how he wasnt a right back and then he was sent away for n ot being a good right back when we had Gibbs, Berry and Arne in front of Anibaba.
     
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