2016 - 17 General Discussion Thread

bvbSlash · May 12, 2017

Of all the coaches we've looked at so far: Sousa, Blanc, Favre and potentially Nagelsmann, none other than Favre has a style similar to TT even he isn't as innovative.

I think the board is being consulted right now. It would be a welcome decision from them to explore a new ceo rather than a coach. I don't see a single coach out there who can make us play the kind of football TT did last season apart from Guardiola and Sarri.

Blanc and Nagelsmann are will certainly consolidate the squad and if it comes down to the two I'd prefer Blanc.

Fingers crossed that we keep TT.

TimBenneth · May 12, 2017

It is telling that not a single player has come out in support of Tuchel...I think that says it all right there.

Favre would b really sick.

Liquid1010 · May 12, 2017

TimBenneth said: ↑

It is telling that not a single player has come out in support of Tuchel...I think that says it all right there.

Favre would b really sick.
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Favre didn't leave BMG on good ground......

MatthausSammer · May 12, 2017

I'm not at all enthralled with the names being thrown out at the moment.

TimBenneth said: ↑

It is telling that not a single player has come out in support of Tuchel...I think that says it all right there.

Favre would b really sick.
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What player would want to involve themself in what appears to be a power struggle between management and the coach in the midst of the season? The players still play hard for Tuchel is the reality.

bvbSlash · May 13, 2017

Zorc confirmed today that Götze is doing really well. Lost 5kg. Is in the midst of running exercises and body building. He is exactly on course. His special facilities are in Dortmund and Munich.

bvbSlash · May 14, 2017

MatthausSammer said: ↑

I'm not at all enthralled with the names being thrown out at the moment.

What player would want to involve themself in what appears to be a power struggle between management and the coach in the midst of the season? The players still play hard for Tuchel is the reality.
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Reus, Sahin and Schmelzer have all been asked about the situation in the last 24 hours and all have diplomatically said they either cannot comment or are focused on their professional goals.

MatthausSammer · May 14, 2017

bvbSlash said: ↑

Reus, Sahin and Schmelzer have all been asked about the situation in the last 24 hours and all have diplomatically said they either cannot comment or are focused on their professional goals.
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All I know is as a player I wouldn't want to damage my relationship with either Watzke or Tuchel by speaking out one way or the other even if I did have an opinion. That just isn't smart.

bvbSlash · May 14, 2017

Interesting article on Sousas tactics at Viola.

Perhaps his failure over there has to do with the team and not himself per say.

http://theinsidechannel.com/a-guide-to-paulo-sousas-tactics-at-fiorentina/

The Jitty Slitter · May 16, 2017

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Our negotiated sponsorship deals are also extremely low. How can we be the best brand in Germany, perform better than other Puma partners and still make a fraction compared to Bayern and Arsenal?
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The growth in the sponsorship deals for the EPL clubs is 99% driven by the growth in global tv audience, rather than their own efforts.

Clubs like Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal have actually been able to do very little to increase the value of these sponsorships outside of that factor which they do not even control.

Bayern (and Man Utd) profit from being the premium football brand in their respective countries. It appears very difficult to monetise commercials for an "also ran" offering.

In my opinion BvB is doing very well - but there just is not that much potential for commercial monetisation beyond simple audience growth,

Liquid1010 · May 17, 2017

Anyone else unimpressed with the new BVB kits? Can we please get rid of Puma......

lamcam · May 17, 2017

Liquid1010 said: ↑

Anyone else unimpressed with the new BVB kits? Can we please get rid of Puma......
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I like it! Hope they will never come back to NIKE!

Cris 09 · May 17, 2017

lamcam said: ↑

I like it! Hope they will never come back to NIKE!
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WHAT???

Best kits ever...

Liquid1010 · May 17, 2017

The new kits look uninspired and hallucinogenic ....

z0mb1e · May 18, 2017

They don't look bad imo, and I've never seen this design before on a football shirt:

I would've preferred a vertical design or maybe diagonal one (depending how it would look), but that's just my taste.

7/10

z0mb1e · May 18, 2017

Speaking of kits: is Puma going to make a special kit for the pokal final? Since Nike unveiled a new one for Frankfurt specifically for the final.

Cris 09 · May 18, 2017

z0mb1e said: ↑

Speaking of kits: is Puma going to make a special kit for the pokal final? Since Nike unveiled a new one for Frankfurt specifically for the final.
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bvbSlash · May 18, 2017

I care more about how much we get from the kit supplier.

Also PEA posed. Does this mean he's staying?

Liquid1010 · May 18, 2017

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adriandragonus · May 19, 2017

you may hate him,but he always has a good point.

#BVB CEO Hans-Joachim Watzke speaking at Oldenburg University about "the social role of the #Bundesliga." pic.twitter.com/jsjGUCrHec
— Matt Ford (@matt_4d) May 19, 2017

hava · May 19, 2017

In the same discussion he also talked about his beginnings of his role at Dortmund:
"We were basically bankrupt. The newly elected president Rauball called me: 'The lights are going out here. Come to us and try to turn it around. It will probably not work, but you can at least help to make it end in an orderly way.'.
We had a revenue of 75 million and a debt of 122 million of which 91 million were due right away. A few years later I asked him why he called me. He said I was the only one left who was willing to take his calls."

About the coaching situation:
There will be a talk with Tuchel after the season. If it were true that there was already an agreement with another coach, having that talk would make no sense.

bvbSlash · May 19, 2017

adriandragonus said: ↑

you may hate him,but he always has a good point.

#BVB CEO Hans-Joachim Watzke speaking at Oldenburg University about "the social role of the #Bundesliga." pic.twitter.com/jsjGUCrHec
— Matt Ford (@matt_4d) May 19, 2017

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That is an absolute BS point. Investors, sponsors and owners invest to make money, directly or indirectly. Either he's stupid af, delusional or has ulterior motives.

hava · May 19, 2017

Sure, they all want to make money. But one of them sees advantages for his own brand and sales and one of them would like to have more/full control of the club which can include decisions to where the money of the club goes, like in his own pocket, for example.

bvbSlash · May 19, 2017

Every smart investor knows that there's no way to make money in football if you're looking at a direct income stream. No only is there data, there's also a long list of failed predecessors. I mean there are investors getting out of it right now as we speak.

Gregoriak · May 20, 2017

Aubameyang is the first player since 1977 to score more than 30 goals in a single Bundesliga season (Dieter Müller scored 34 goals in 1976-77).

Aubameyang and Lewandowski both scored at least 30 goals. This has only been the second time in Bundesliga history that two players managed that in the same season. The first and last time before this season was 1973-74 when Gerd Müller and Jupp Heynckes both scored 30 goals.

Liquid1010 · May 20, 2017

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