In that list Son Heung Min is missed, Kim Bo Kyung had to return in korea due to work permit, there are few koreans in the bundesliga 2 as well. Finally there are two Koreans playing for Crystal Palace and Ausburg, plus some korean plays in the youth academies and minor european leagues. I dont know much about Iran football so i cant tell.
I don't see any misunderstanding, if anything you didn't answer me? Not sure why you are asking me those questions, but I'll answer you if it helps getting your answer: 1) Well, obviously there are tons of factors that contribute to achieving "good results". In general, they are achieved when the team flows, when there's chemistry, as long as the players have enough quality. Obviously if Fiji play against Japan, no matter how much chemistry they have or what genious coach they have, there won't be a "good result" in score form. The manager selects the players he thinks are in-form, and that fit a certain system he has in mind. He decides the tactics to use, gives individual instructions, etc. Obviously, this is just from the manager's POV since it's what we are talking about. To make a simple example, if a player gets red carded, this will have an impact and the manager can only try to take a counter-measure. 2) On a very basic level, "good results" are when the team wins. Greece wasn't exactly playing exciting football when they won the EUROs but I think we all can agree that it was a historic result. On a more detailed level, we can probably say, for Japan, "achievements in FIFA competitions". From the POV of a federation though and not just "the history textbooks", obviously, beating, dunno, Brazil in a friendly, would still be an amazing result as it would probably be a great morale boost for the team. If this is not "good results" for you, I'm interested in knowing your idea. Now that I answered you, let me ask you the question again, as I'm still not sure what changed. I'm asking about what you literally wrote: So, if you judge the work of the coach by: 1) how he change and improve the way his team functions (= subjective judgement*, unless the word "improve" is directly related to the results achieved) 2) how he utilizes players under his disposal (= again, subjective judgement* unless related to a result: for example, Honda being used as a striker by Okada and this somehow saving Japan's FW problem in a WC ) *I'm not saying that subjective judgement is right or wrong, it's just obviously not what a Federation or a fan ultimately thinks about. Then the fans should judge the work of a coach by these parameters and not, again, as you literally wrote: "by winning against Opponent X or losing against Opponent Y, or by winning/advancing in (Competition X or by losing/knocked out of Competition Y." The only thing I can think of is that if a team ultimately battles hard, even the final result is missing, the coach should still be praised? Is this what you tried to suggest? Thanks.
I don't care what anyone says, Japan just beat a solid European team 7-2. That's pretty amazing, and the guys who are coming out saying so what and playing it down, just don't realise what an incredible result it is. First off, Japan are supposedly ranked 58 in the world? A team ranked that low doesn't beat a similar ranked team with that kind of scoreline. We all know as well that Japan always creates tons of chances, we've seen it, we know how it works, THIS is what happens when they actually take these chances I don't think anyone can talk about regression, the way Japanese football has improved in it's short life is nothing short of amazing. The best part is Bulgaria probably have no idea what hit them. Of course only time will tell, but for me Japan really needs to be respected because if you don't respect them they could slaughter you, and I love that
I would describe Croatia as a top European team. I guess it's a little difficult to put into words. Do you not think this result says a lot about how far Japanese football has come? If this was Brazil beating Bulgaria 7-2 we would all be saying how fantastic Brazil is, and that's one of the best teams in the history of the game. Maybe I'm just being too positive, for all I know Bosnia are going to come out now and beat Japan easily
Yeah Bosnia is another level compared to Bulgaria, but if you manage to crash them as well...congratulations. But i think should be a even match.
I expect Bosnia to be pretty poor, since they left most of their key players (Džeko, Ibišević, Pjanić, Begović) at home and IIRC their depth is not very good.
Yes, but it is surprising that with that kind of squad, Bosnia managed to beat Denmark, even though it had to be settled on PK Shotout. And Did Denmark deploy their A team?
Crikey. Nishikawa or Higashiguchi for Bosnia match in your opinion? Nishikawa's distribution is excellent, but he's far from sweeper keeper like Neuer, Stegen, Sommer, or Lloris type who positioned themselves excellently.
It seems that Bulgaria is a joke, they just got demolished 4-0 by Denmark, with Tottenham's Christian Eriksen scoring a hat-trick.
FWIW, in the World Football Elo ratings , which actually does have some predictive power, unlike the totally worthless "official" FIFA rankings, Japan is way higher than Bulgaria, suggesting that they should be expected to beat Bulgaria pretty easily, especially at home. It was the margin of victory that was surprising. In the Elo ratings Japan and Bosnia are roughly level, which seems about right to me. Since they were playing at home, though, Japan were favorites to win that game, so a loss is disappointing and dropped them down the table pretty significantly (5 spots, down to number 27). It was only a friendly, though, so it's hard to read too much into it.