Pre-match: (2015.01.23) AFC Asian Cup QF: Japan x UAE [R]

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  1. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    They haven't been hyped, the build up was non existent in Japan after the WC disappointment. The Asian Cup really comes too early after, I wish they'd fix that. Teams don't have time to renew themselves, fans don't have time to get warmed up as much as they could.
     
  2. poponponpon

    poponponpon Member

    Jun 8, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    be a good loser. we are number eight in asia. just face the truth.
     
  3. rougou

    rougou Member+

    Dec 7, 2003
    Hyogo
    Club:
    AS Roma
    They moved it to avoid Euros, but then they hold it in January anyway.
     
  4. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    It's factually true.
     
  5. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    It`s true that we need to be a fair looser,we lose and dont mater how UAE played,they gave they maximum and I gave them the best wishes for the upcomming tournamentn BUT evereyone one that Japan is one of the best teams ins asia. Brazil Lost the Sout American Cup Cup last timte with 100% penaltiys and the WC 2014 with 7:1
     
  6. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I already feel sorry for all those poor teams who won't qualify for the next world cup despite being higher in
    poponponpon's asian ranking
     
  7. artml

    artml Member

    Liverpool FC
    Ukraine
    Jul 11, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    How come? Japan didn't lost their quarterfinal game unlike China and Uzbekistan, and their group results were better than others' as well.

    Japan is listed fifth in Wiki, seems about right to me.

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  8. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    If Japan is 8th in Asia then the top 7 does not exist in this dimension.
     
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  9. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    true true, but it doesn't make much difference in the end, we "lost".
     
  10. Ogasawara

    Ogasawara Member

    Jun 15, 2014
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Well, this was pathetic. If you can't even beat UAE then you have to wonder about the quality
    of this team. The team has failed at the last World Cup and now they have failed again. The time
    has finally come to rebuild the team and to leave out most of the players of the current squad. The
    National team doesn't need players who choke when it really matters like in the last World Cup and
    this Asian Cup. Something has happened after the last World Cup. Its time for a fresh start with
    new players and a new coach
     
  11. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    I think it's delusional to believe we are so above the pack teams like UAE will be easy work. They have some good talent and if their players don't move overseas, it's because there is no financial incentive in general. When we won the Asian Games in 2010, they largely dominated the game.
     
  12. Ogasawara

    Ogasawara Member

    Jun 15, 2014
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    On paper Japan has the best squad in Asia. But despite of the individual talent the team isn't even able
    to a beat a team like UAE which mostly consists of players who play in the Arab leagues.
    Overall this is embarrassing. This is not the World Cup. This is only the Asian Cup. In 2004 we won
    the Asian Cup with a B-team and in 2007 we reached the Semifinals with an inexperienced team
    This was the worst Asian Cup since more than a decade with one of the most talented teams that we ever
    had.
     
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  13. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    Most of the time, the paper is analyzed by people completely out of touch with Asia. UAE is a small state, seriously, they can't have a good football team right ? Most of the countries in Asia will never be taken seriously but their players have two arms and two legs and football isn't such an intricate thing that it's out of reach for the likes of UAE.
    Look back, 4 years ago we drew with Jordan, we nearly lost with Syria, we beat Qatar on the razor's edge, we needed the PK shootout to beat Korea and the match against Australia was won in over-time against the run of play. Each one of these games could have went the other way. The border between failure and triumph is really thin.
     
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  14. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    to be fair, the biggest difference is that it was a completely new team so not the best of the examples, with Qatar playing in Doha too. I agree that you still need to set certain expectations and drawing with UAE in 120' isn't exactly meeting them.
    At the same time, yeah, sometimes shit happens and some games feel like cursed, there will always be that one time where things just won't work.

    edit: and these PKs were 2011's karma =p
     
  15. Ogasawara

    Ogasawara Member

    Jun 15, 2014
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    It doesn't matter how close these matches were. At the end we still won and were able to claim the
    title in 2011. Good teams always find a way to score and to win games. But today it was different.
    I know that UAE was rated by a lot of experts but honestly they didn't offer anything today. They were
    bunkering like all Arab teams do and were at the end lucky not to lose. This UAE team looked average and
    definitely did not deserve the credit.
     
  16. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
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    With some luck UAE can win the tournament and I'm totally with them now.

    However this entire match was simply a show where JNT make seppuku in a very long way cutting its stomach slowly till death.

    From this kind of catastrophe usually come something good, at least I hope so.
     
  17. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    That's BS please. So Japan had a PK for a foul outside the boxagainst Korea in 2011 because they were a good team, but Shibasaki's free kick sailed 5cm off the post in 2014 because they're not good ? Those formulas are just good for rhetoric.
     
  18. komina12345

    komina12345 Member+

    Sep 1, 2008
    Club:
    Incheon United
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I was hoping for a Japan - Korea final since I like that type of rivalry stuff. To be frank, I saw three things happen last night.

    1) Iran got jobbed by Ben Williams. Credit to them for fighting back, but it's hard to win when the game is 10 vs 12

    2) Javier Aguirre is honestly the most retarded coach I have seen in my life. I'm beginning to feel that Japan was winning in spite of him rather than because of him. Especially with this whole match fixing thing, I can confidently say that his job is done.

    3) Kagawa should never be allowed near a soccer field today. He was practically invisible and seemed so uninspired today. I don't know whether or not it was bad confidence or that he has really regressed that much, but I feel bad for the kid in that almost all of Japan will be blaming him and Aguirre.
     
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  19. Mani

    Mani BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 1, 2004
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    The cup is Korea's to lose now. I think Korea is due one finally.
     
  20. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    But they're playing like shit in all their games... And they had their UAE-Japan miracle in the group game against Australia already.
     
  21. brood915

    brood915 Member+

    Oct 14, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    #146 brood915, Jan 23, 2015
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2015
    I personally dont even care even if we dont win the tournament. Many of us already expected reaching the semifinals would be our best result due to many predicaments we had to face from the beginning (All of our main strikers got injured, LCY + KJC injured). We didnt even have a solid "best 11" squad either. Stielike had to rotate + use all of our players except for JSR, due to sickness.

    Japan has been developing their own "color" (sushi taka) for years now under foreign managers with similar strategies while Korea stupidly changed their manager like 4-5 times in the past 4 years. People who expect Korea to show better "performance" than Japan are stupid. But speaking of result, I dont know. The team who wins the match is the stronger side, not the side who performs better. Let's see how it goes in a few days.
     
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  22. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Anyway UAE did good in playing a game like this. It was the best plan to put Japan in a tough spot.
     
  23. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Fixed.
     
  24. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    #149 Gordon1995, Jan 23, 2015
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2015
    Players like Endo should make way already. Kagawa and those that performed below par should not be an automatic starter in the JNT unless they buck up first. Its time the JNT revamped themselves and stop being satisfied just able to be the best team in Asia like Korea and Australia.
     
  25. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I just checked this and saw quarterfinals has been played already Japan barely got to penalties and lost

    Haha what

    No comment really no freaking comment lol
     

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