2014 NASL ATTENDANCE - FALL SEASON

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  1. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    3,806 in NY
    3,896 in Tampa
    3,080 in Carolina
    3,092 in Ft. Lauderdale

    Not a great start to the fall half. Lets hope the numbers pick up as the half progresses.
     
  2. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Inauspicious start.

    And the Cosmos continue to slide....
     
  3. Prosoccercdn

    Prosoccercdn Member+

    Aug 6, 2011
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Wouldn't expect FC Edmonton to post a big number tomorrow either, they weren't able to secure the right to play the World Cup Final on the new Jumbotron at the Commie Bowl so the timing of their game should make for a low turnout.

    The Split season break is to blame partly, you get momentum going and then start over after the team being out of the news for weeks, happened with FCE last year. Carolina had 2 games in 4 nights also but Ft Lauderdale was business as usual with their 3K+.
     
  4. RumblesUbamba

    RumblesUbamba New Member

    May 25, 2011
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    There was really bad weather in the Tampa area, and there was a Rays game at the same time for the Rowdies game. They even had an official "tailgate" before the game with free food, shirts, and music, but that did not help us get over 4K.

    Hopefully with better weather and some more momentum after our win, we can get back to our Spring Season figures.
     
  5. davidrpaige

    davidrpaige Member

    May 17, 2008
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Don't worry, when they get their new stadium they'll be packing 25k regularly.

    *chokes to death on own sarcasm*
     
  6. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    3,609 in Edmonton
     
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  7. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I understand it is a done deal, will be announced right after Thanksgiving 2013.
     
  8. OpenCupFan

    OpenCupFan Member

    Jun 19, 2014
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Always nice to hear about stadium building from such renowned experts.
     
  9. Ed NYC Firm

    Ed NYC Firm Member

    May 14, 2000
    NY
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    For what it's worth .... NYC are being outdrawn by the Long Island Ducks independent minor league baseball who so far are averaging 4974 fans a game
    ..
     
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  10. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Atlantic League Bot.
     
  11. greenroom

    greenroom BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 16, 2012
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Have to admit that Cosmos attendance is disappointing, seems more posters on twitter and message boards than go to the games?
     
  12. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Many people like the idea of the Cosmos more than they like the actual Cosmos.
     
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  13. Ed NYC Firm

    Ed NYC Firm Member

    May 14, 2000
    NY
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    I was on board with the idea of the NY Cosmos in MLS and playing in a stadium in NYC. A minor league team playing on Long Island under the Cosmos name does nothing for me.
     
  14. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ... as it is to hear about league structure from such renowned business experts.
     
  15. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    It's just a small core that posts anywhere, on any social media form, incessantly.
     
  16. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006

    Good first step.

    You acknowledge their intelligence compared to your limited capabilities.

    That's the only way you can learn and move forward. Good for you.
     
  17. OpenCupFan

    OpenCupFan Member

    Jun 19, 2014
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    I think that is an exaggeration, but just by a little. Kind of reminds me of the early MLS jokes about the hecklers being afraid because they were out numbered by the players on the field.

    On a side not, I wonder why it is ok to attack the Cosmos incessantly but not ok to defend your team? Also, it is ok to defend every team except the Cosmos? If you defend the Cosmos you are some kind of whack job but if you attack the Cosmos you get repped. Sounds strange doesn't it.

    Also - happy for the Ducks and their success, they are awesome and an asset to Suffolk County, NY. But, as for the Cosmos and Ducks comparision - Suffolk has a population of about 1.5 millions and no other sports teams or big college sports programs and it is like 50 miles from NYC. So, nothing like the Cosmos
    - on a related note, breaking news, the Cubs are out drawing the Chicago Fire this year - but its close (sike - its not close at all)
     
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  18. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, @Sam U El is just fine ... as are a few others.

    You, and those "attacked", have something in common.
     
  19. greenroom

    greenroom BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 16, 2012
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am not meaning to attack the Cosmos, just the attendance issue to me is a big concern. Coming off a championship, and still not drawing fans. What happens when the team struggles?

    I personally love the passion of the Cosmos fans, and don't considered them whack jabs. Since most take it pretty well when they lose.
     
  20. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ticket sales and team performance are not as inextricably linked as you - and others - seem to think.

    No matter how many examples you show people of teams that win but can't draw or that draw despite not winning, instead of re-thinking the 1970s-era beliefs that winning is the number one determiner of attendance, they scratch their heads and say, "Hmmmmm. Don't understand what's wrong with those fans."

    It's nowhere near all of them. Just the ones with internet access.
     
  21. OpenCupFan

    OpenCupFan Member

    Jun 19, 2014
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Appreciate it, not talking about you. The rest of the post stands though.

    Last game killed me though, I don't live in NYC anymore, but happened to be in town for a wedding. Killing me, I was in the Bronx for a wedding but couldn't go to the game. (score didn't help, killed me too)
     
  22. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    http://www.nasl.com/article/uuid/17...aim-to-open-td-place-with-a-bang#.U8bbSvl_vfI

    The NASL's single-game attendance record, in the modern era, currently sits at 13,151 and belongs to the San Antonio Scorpions, who set it during their 2012 home opener against the Puerto Rico Islanders. If you ask anyone involved with Ottawa Fury FC, however, they'll tell you that the Scorpions' league record won't stand past this Sunday, when Ottawa will christen their beautiful new home, TD Place, against the visiting New York Cosmos.
     
  23. cflsteve

    cflsteve Member

    Jul 21, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    For Ottawa it is not just a game or a regular opening of a new stadium it is one of the most anticipated events in Ottawa. The OSEG group added Fury owner to that group specifically for its soccer presence. The Fury are not a pop up expansion team but an already orginazation with full mens and Womans academies and is making the upgrade for PDL to NASL. The group also includes a football specific owner and land development owners. The main owner has been in the sports business with Junior hockey which has an already in place top marketing department.
    A 3 team model of CFL, NASL, and OHL with a reno's stadium and arena connected as well as already started cross promotion.
     
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  24. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They'd better have already sold a boatload of tickets before they make a pronouncement like that.
     
  25. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Division 2

    Code:
    37% of year complete
    Year     Avg   Median    %<2K    %>10k
    2002    2477    1955    50.5%     1.1%
    2003    2773    1635    55.1%     2.0%
    2004    3656    3117    29.3%     2.4%
    2005    3969    3507    22.6%     3.2%
    2006    4319    3292    12.9%     4.8%
    2007    4191    3740    27.4%     8.1%
    2008    4867    4277    14.8%     9.8%
    2009    4073    3298    19.7%     6.6%
    --------------------------------------
    2010    4542    3402    31.7%    12.2%
    --------------------------------------
    2011    3304    2688    26.8%     7.3%
    2012    3827    3041    24.4%     4.9%
    2013    4611    4513     5.6%     0.0%
    2014    5161    4535     0.0%    10.0%
    
    Median-33%: 3023
    Median+33%: 6046
    <MED-33%: 4 / 8%
    >MED+33%: 13 / 26%


    Code:
    Final Numbers
    Year     Avg   Median    %<2K    %>10k
    2002    3037    2185    40.1%     3.6%
    2003    3335    2463    42.9%     4.1%
    2004    3878    3107    30.9%     4.5%
    2005    4527    3554    19.6%     7.7%
    2006    4666    3370    18.5%    10.7%
    2007    4771    4274    19.6%    10.1%
    2008    5164    4510    10.9%    12.1%
    2009    4709    3662    21.2%    13.3%
    --------------------------------------
    2010    4449    2872    28.9%    12.2%
    --------------------------------------
    2011    3770    2795    28.6%    11.6%
    2012    3806    3154    25.0%     4.5%
    2013    4670    4442     3.3%     1.1%
    
    This weekend -- Indy, Minnesota, Atlanta, San Antonio, and Ottawa. Very interested to see what happens in Ottawa. Before that bit of information above, I was going to say that it seems unlikely that the solid 2nd place in 10K+ was going to stand. But, depending on what happens in Ottawa, this year could manage to hold that slot or even take 1st. So, despite concerning attendance in NY (which, while poor this week, was still not as poor as a couple previous weeks) and other weak showings, overall the league still looks much better than pretty much ever. There's still a good chance that this season will end #1 in all categories.

    I have a question about the bad weather in Tampa. It's summer. Isn't rain very common?
     

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