2014 FIFA World Cup: Final Draw 06.12.13

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  1. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
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    (Updated - Pots confirmed by FIFA on 03.12.13)

    Pot 1:
    Brazil, Spain, Argentina, Belgium, Colombia, Germany, Switzerland, Uruguay

    Pot 2: Ivory Coast, Ghana, Algeria, Nigeria, Cameroon, Chile, Ecuador

    Pot 3: Japan, Iran, South Korea, Australia, United States, Mexico, Costa Rica, Honduras

    Pot 4: Bosnia, Croatia, England, Greece, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal, Russia, France

    Note: A pre-draw will be held to move one of the nine European teams into Pot 2. That European team will then be drawn against one of the four seeded South American teams to preserve the geographical balance of the draw.

    The four South American seeds: Brazil, Uruguay, Colombia, Argentina will form a temporary Pot X. The three teams not drawn against the European team in Pot 2 will return to the main draw.


    Date and time: The Final Draw for the 2014 FIFA World Cup will take place in Costa do Sauipe, near the city of Salvador, on Brazil’s north-eastern coast. The 90-minute event is scheduled to get underway at 13:00 (Local Time) on December 6.
     
  2. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    This pot looks the weakest on paper, but then that same combination in 2010 with two arguably weaker nations (Nth Korea and New Zealand in place of Costa Rica and Iran) produced 4 teams that made the round of 16 and one group winner in the USA. You never know until the games are played.
     
  3. Sandinista

    Sandinista Member+

    Apr 11, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    Racing Club de Avellaneda
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    So... will Charlize Theron be there again?
     
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  4. silicus

    silicus Member

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Feb 26, 2008
    Silicon Valley, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. USOutlaw16

    USOutlaw16 Member+

    Green Bay Voyageurs
    United States
    Jan 22, 2011
    On the Gringo Wall of Shame
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some intriguing matchups that we could see drawn:

    Uruguay vs. Ghana: This would be one of the most hyped matches leading up to the tournament, and that's saying a lot

    USA vs. Ghana: Like a vase of petuna flowers, USA fans will be thinking to themselves, "Oh no, not again"

    USA vs. Portugal: Let's just say we tend to do well against Portuguese legends who wear the #7 ;)

    England vs. Argentina: Think it's time we dusted off this rivalry for another go round.

    England vs. Germany: Self-Explanatory

    Brazil vs. either Holland/Italy: Early fireworks involving world powers. Even moreso if it happens to be the opener.

    Holland vs. Belgium: The Low Country derby gets a World Cup matchup for the first time since 1998.

    South Korea vs. Italy: Let's just say Italy still holds a grudge over Ahn Jung Hwan.

    Argentina vs. Portugal: Messi vs. CR7 at the World Cup? Yes please.

    Spain vs. Portugal: Iberian hostilities resume.
     
  6. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    "The draw procedures itself will start around 13:45 local time and will last for approximately 35minutes."
     
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  7. teammellieIRANfan

    Feb 28, 2009
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Im nervous as feck! Gonna be sooo exciting!!!
     
  8. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    I am not saying anything new necessarily, when I mention how unbalanced several of these pots are, making the draw so much more important than it should be.

    In Pot 1, you can get hosts Brazil, or you can get Switzerland! I am sure its almost the same:rolleyes:

    In Pot 3, you can get France, or you can get Algeria. Does it really matter?:rolleyes:

    In Pot 4, you may end up with Italy, four time world cup winners (never mind I think one of their titles was undeserved), or you may end up with Bosnia, in their first ever World Cup. (You may also get Holland, last World Cup's runner up team, or you may get Greece, who have lost all but one of the 6 matches they have ever played in the World Cup).

    Since Iran is in Pot 2 and we won't face anyone from this pot, I am not going to worry about the differences in Pot 2, but when it comes to the rest of the pots, the differences are enough to determine the fate of some the teams based on the draw before the World Cup has even started. Thus, unless a team is aiming to finish as a semifinalist or better, I doubt it would rate its chances getting out of a group with say Brazil (Pot 1), Italy (Pot 4), France (Pot 3), and (fill in the blank from Pot 2)!

    I say that fully cognizant that both Italy and France sucked in the last World Cup. But although one of them will likely suck again in the kind of group I mentioned above, surely any team from Pot 4 would almost have to be delusional to think they would be able to advance from a group with 3 different recent World Cup champions. A group which would have all the teams that had won every World Cup since 1994 except the last one, a group with 3 teams with 10 World Cup titles between them.

    Conversely, there are several teams in Pot 2 which would be completely favored to advance from a group with say Switzerland, Greece, and Algeria. And all of the teams in Pot 2, even Honduras, would rate their chances of advancing from such a group as being decent!
     
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  9. teammellieIRANfan

    Feb 28, 2009
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    I would LOVE for Iran to be in a group consisting Brazil, Italy and France. Seeing as how we will not advance, regardless of what group we end up in, we might as well hope for at least playing some exciting teams!
    I would hate to end up with teams like Switzerland and Algeria
     
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  10. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    I don't rate our chances as low as you do. We should get 3 points from Algeria if we play near our potential; and there are plenty of teams from Pot 4 such as Greece, Bosnia, or even Russia or Croatia, which we might get result against and qualify to the next round. And even seeded teams like Switzerland aren't beyond reach.

    Anyway, the main point in any case is about how unbalanced these groups might turn out to be. Too unbalanced if you ask me.
     
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  11. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    I see we are on quite a few wish lists...

    Just remember, in most cases the feeling is mutual. :D
     
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  12. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    By all means! Just hope both of us get our wish!:D
     
  13. Stefan79

    Stefan79 Member

    Nov 20, 2013
    Amsterdam
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Do you know what time that is in CET?
     
  14. BlackDiamond

    BlackDiamond Member

    Nov 24, 2005
    Sao Paulo, Brazil
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Salvador is -3 GMT.
     
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  15. JAIME CHILE

    JAIME CHILE Member+

    Apr 26, 2006
    V.Alemana y Stgo
    Club:
    Cobreloa Calama
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Who the ******** are they?:D

    That woman with the hand in her hair is hot:thumbsup:
     
  16. BlackDiamond

    BlackDiamond Member

    Nov 24, 2005
    Sao Paulo, Brazil
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Fernanda Lima, who is married to Rodrigo Hibbert, the blonde guy two spots on the right.
     
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  17. JAIME CHILE

    JAIME CHILE Member+

    Apr 26, 2006
    V.Alemana y Stgo
    Club:
    Cobreloa Calama
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Thanks:thumbsup:
     
  18. Steve Page

    Steve Page Member

    Oct 30, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Only because you are in the seeds pot. We couldn't beat you in the opening match of Euro 96 despite playing at Wembley. We had a much better team then than we do now and I'm sure you would agree that your team is better.

    Whilst the draw is important there will be a number of teams who outperform expectations and others who underperform. In some ways I wouldn't mind a group of death for England as it will at least ensure we play some good teams. It will also take the pressure off. The worst thing would be flying home early after being knocked out of an "easy" group.
     
  19. waitforit

    waitforit Member+

    Dec 3, 2010
    Valcea
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    It's been a few year since I have seen the logo and I can't still get over the fact it looks like a guy face palming
     
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  20. JohnnyFutbol

    JohnnyFutbol Member+

    Nov 5, 2009
    Haddonfield
    Club:
    Club Tigres de la UANL
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Cant unsee.
     
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  21. WestLooper

    WestLooper Member

    Apr 17, 2005
    Why is it that the draw procedure has not been announced already? One of the most important things that FIFA's braintrust could work on, and they are going to convene and decide one day prior to the draw?
     
  22. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    It's FIFA. For e.g. if you go to their website you'll find on the main page there is a headline saying "WC draw just months away". lol
     
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  23. Steve Page

    Steve Page Member

    Oct 30, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Should we be more concerned with where rather than who? http://www.theguardian.com/football...-england-venues-opposition-hodgson-rio-brazil - ignore the incorrect draw location in this article, the Guardian is well-known for its mistakes.

    Those who think they have a chance of winning must surely regard the venues as being vitally important. You do not want to be exhausted in the later stages. Lesser sides might even hope that harsh conditions work as a leveller. Which positions would you like to be drawn in? B3 looks good to me. Cuiaba, Rio then Sao Paulo in the group stage.
     
  24. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    I wish they would do away with the 4 pot system and go to a draw a region first, then the country from that region second. They could still have 8 seeded teams. There is no reason CONCACAF teams should not be able to be in a group with Asian teams. There still might be groups of death, but at least it would be less pre-determined.
     
  25. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    The could do it even without a draw, based on rankings, albeit keeping teams from the same confederation (except UEFA) apart. Something like what I did here.

    P.S.

    You might like Group E, if they employed the system I have advocated. I certainly do. The numbers in parenthesis are the FIFA rankings for these teams last month, before the newest rankings were released.

    Group E
    1. Colombia (#4)
    2. USA (#13)
    3. Russia (#19)
    4. Iran (#49)
     

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