2014 FIFA World Cup™ 3rd Place: Brazil vs Netherlands, pre-game discussion.

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  1. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Aug 22, 2001
    Don't drink beer but like cheese
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    According to FIFA, the US finished third in 1930. Yeah, we care. :D:p
     
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  2. Wolfie65

    Wolfie65 Member

    Jun 16, 2010
    Albuquerque, NM
    Unfortunately, I think Galo Vingador is right, and in order to get Brazil back on the track they should have been on all along, Brazil needs to get trashed yet again.
    Of which the Dutch are perfectly capable, provided they even feel like playing this otherwise meaningless and pointless match.
    Makes sense in the Olympics, makes no sense in the WC.
    'Many of these players will be playing for Brazil in 2018'?
    Boy, better hope not.......
    Kick everyone over 25 off the roster, find 3 or 4 more Neymars, a couple more David Luiz's and Oscars, hire a coach who actually wants to play jogo bonito like they used to back in the '70's, and you might have something.
     
  3. Surinamese-man

    Aug 20, 2008
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    Nat'l Team:
    Surinam
    Wesley Sneijder also doesn't have the desire to play that last match.Not much enthusiasm among many players.Most of them don't care any more.
     
  4. DutchLion

    DutchLion Member

    Jun 12, 2010
    Amsterdam
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    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  5. Surinamese-man

    Aug 20, 2008
    Club:
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    Surinam
    Hey,don't be like that man!It's already bad enough for the Brazilian players and all those Brazilian fans.Brazil had to be shaken awake,that's for sure, but keep cheering for your country,no matter what!

    Recovery will come for Brazil in the future and than you guys will kick some ass again.Scolari is responsible for all this,so you guys must remove him as quickly as possible after this WC.Good luck man!
     
  6. DutchLion

    DutchLion Member

    Jun 12, 2010
    Amsterdam
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Could not agree more.

    Just stick with your team, support them while under pressure.
    There will be time after the tournament to have harsh talks and start the rebuilding process.
     
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  7. Galo Vingador

    Galo Vingador Member

    Jan 4, 2010
    Belo Horizonte
    Club:
    Atletico Belo Horizonte
    Not so sure...

    CBF already announced that they believe what happened was a "bizarre incident", that the job was very well done, that there was nothing wrong with Brazilian team and preparation, and that they think the Seleção is "on the right path".

    Heck, they are even considering to keep Scolari.
     
  8. Galo Vingador

    Galo Vingador Member

    Jan 4, 2010
    Belo Horizonte
    Club:
    Atletico Belo Horizonte
    You guys have no idea how rotten and corrupt brazilian FA is...
    Unfortunately, if we win, the whole "it was all a big fluke" thesis will reign, and nothing will change.

    They will keep thinking Brazil is "the" football superpower, that there is nothing wrong with our style of play, etc, etc.

    If we get thrashed yet again, maybe it will generate enough public pressure to change things.
    (or maybe not. after all, who cares about the third-place match?)

    The whole thing is just sad.
     
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  9. DutchLion

    DutchLion Member

    Jun 12, 2010
    Amsterdam
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  10. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Tehran Iran
    I would be interested to see this game, but I don't know what to expect at all! Brazil's 7:1 humiliation at the hands of Germany might propel them to put on a great effort in this match to win back some pride, or alternatively Brazil might be too demoralized and too embarrassed still to be able to play well. Regardless, even if Brazil play poorly, this will not be another 7:1 game! That one was just bizarre and, in my opinion, sui generis.
     
  11. Galo Vingador

    Galo Vingador Member

    Jan 4, 2010
    Belo Horizonte
    Club:
    Atletico Belo Horizonte
    Apparently Fred is not gonna start. Jo will come in his place.

    Poor Fred. He sucks, I know, but it's not his fault that he is a terrible player. The blame should be on those calling him to the national side.

    Anyway, he is now the perfect scapegoat.
     
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  12. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Aug 22, 2001
    Don't drink beer but like cheese
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The article I posted on the second to last page of the Brasil v. Germany match goes into more detail regarding your comment.
     
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  13. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Fine with me as Jo is the one player on the team who is actually worse than Fred.:eek:
     
  14. ChaosOnkel

    ChaosOnkel Member

    Jul 6, 2014
    Leipzig, Saxony
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    They should bring back Romario and Bebeto. This players alone even with their ages today would run more than Fred and Jo together. Sorry for Brasil to watch them fall against us. Hope they stand up once again and show what they can. Their fans earn it! Even if a third place has no worth.
     
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  15. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Ronaldinho is probably still in decent enough shape and better as well.
     
  16. Incidental Lurker

    Incidental Lurker New Member

    Jul 3, 2014
    Brasil want their honor restored, the Dutch want to leave without losing.
    The best way not to lose is to win, could be entertaining if both teams want it bad enough.
     
  17. svelten

    svelten Member

    Jun 22, 2009
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Fenomeno Ronaldo probably could still outrun some of the guys in yellow I saw on Tuesday
     
  18. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    #44 VFish, Jul 11, 2014
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2014
    If guys you don't mind postponing the game a week or two we could probably convince Dennis Bergkamp to get on a boat cross the Atlantic. I'm sure some of our seniors would love a chance to replay our 1994 match.
     
  19. Tukafo

    Tukafo Member+

    Oct 12, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Actually, how DID Bergkamp get to the USA in 1994? Did he use a cruise liner?
     
  20. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    I believe they drugged him and then placed him in the cargo hold of the team jet. Kind of like when you have to ship a pet, but you make sure to insure a Dennis Bergkamp.
     
  21. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Actually, IIRC, his aerophobia began on the flight to America for the WC94 when an engine stalled.
     
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  22. evangel

    evangel Member+

    Apr 12, 2007
    To be fair, I'm sure a lot of us would hold a similar fear if we were on a flight where an incident like that happened.
     
  23. DoYouEvenFutbol

    Jul 8, 2014
    Do people actually watch 3rd place games? What's the point of them? Pride?

    They seem like glorified friendlies to me....
     
  24. evangel

    evangel Member+

    Apr 12, 2007
    They're always fun matches to watch. That's why people watch them.
     
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