2014/15 Hiroshi Ibusuki @ Debreceni VSC (HUN) [Rumor]

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  1. Saku²

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    #26 Saku², Jul 6, 2014
    I think he didn't want to go to J2.
     
  2. teioh

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    #27 teioh, Jul 6, 2014
    Why not, even Zac searched for good CBs in J2 at the beginning plus Konno and Endo will probably stay in JNT till Asian Cup 2015.
     
  3. Blue-San

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    #28 Blue-San, Jul 6, 2014

    If you think Valencia II is better or on pair with the likes of Debrecen Saku you are either making a huge joke or are simply ignorant.
    Barcelona II is maybe on pair with Debrecen yes, not freaking Valencia II
     
  4. Blue-San

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    #29 Blue-San, Jul 6, 2014
    A champion of Northern Ireland league a semi professional club of

    Cliftonville FC
     
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  5. teioh

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    #30 teioh, Jul 6, 2014
    It seems there will be 3 opponents for them to reach the UCL groupstage. Good luck to Ibusuki, if he will be a starter and play in a real UCL match it will be awesome!
     
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  6. Dax

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    #31 Dax, Jul 7, 2014
    God damn, seriously you're answering me with the same thing?
    Fyi Oksako joined the same league as Ishihara, or have you forgotten? The fact that Ishihara didn't make a jump to Bundesliga but did not perform to expectations is a problem of him only
    Oh, I totally agree with your post, but remember that it's very hard to see him with a guaranteed spot anywhere. Saku is right when he says that he could be forced to join a J2 club or be a reserve in J1.

    I think he's trying to do things his own way and in my opinion it started going wrong when he accepted that nonsense loan to Eupen, but anyway, this is a better move.
    It'll also depend if his team can help him play his target man football.

    And that's assuming his actually wins a spot there, not even speaking hungarian! It seems that Seto retweeted his move haha, maybe they'll meet once in a while.

    I think chances are super-slim, it may have happened once but they'll need the perfect draw. Personally I'm just hoping they can land in EL and a good draw is needed even there
     
  7. teioh

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    #32 teioh, Jul 7, 2014
    UCL or EL doesn't matter I mean it will be awesome to see him play in an international stage + good experience for him too.
     
  8. scotch17

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    #33 scotch17, Jul 8, 2014
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    With Aguirre... I half expect them to be playing in 2018. Unless they rule themselves out by retiring.

    Anyway, if he has chances to play in Euro continental competitions... it will be a good experience for him. If he can't even break into the side for those games, then [shrugs]

    I don't know exactly what Dax was getting at with Mizuno... but I kind of blame Celtic for screwing up his career. They got a player who was a decent winger in the classic British sense (sprint to the byline, beat his man, put in a good cross) ... and they tried to make him into a Thierry Henry. Totally different skillset that he didn't have. But with McGeady, Maloney, McCourt, and Naka all there at the same time... Strachan and Mowbray weren't interested in a classic winger.
    It would've made more sense to convert him into a RB than a lone striker or false 9 ... but whatever. Years of his life wasted for Asian marketing with managers that were never much interested in him as a player (Strachan said some positive things, but his actions spoke louder than his words)
     
  9. Dax

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    #34 Dax, Jul 8, 2014
    the matter of the discussion was different, I wasn't talking about why\how Mizuno failed or if Celtic screwed him, I was just answering at Saku speaking about the fact that Ishihara's transfer (he was noticed during Europa League matches) "failed".
    The fact that it failed certainly doesn't mean that should Ibusuki play in Europa League and make himself notice, it would be a bad opportunity. Ishihara moved to a more popular league and he had a good chance to eventually go even higher (just hypotetically speaking, it was already surprising to see him in 2.Buli actually)
    Otherwise, by that logic, I said, Mizuno (random name, could've been Omae or whatever) shouldn't have accepted a transfer in the beginning, as if he knew what was going to happen.
     
  10. Saku²

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    #35 Saku², Jul 15, 2014
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  11. seolseol

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    #36 seolseol, Jul 15, 2014
    I really can't see how people think this is a bad move. J2 over this? Hell no.
     
  12. Whispered11

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    #37 Whispered11, Jul 15, 2014
  13. Whispered11

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    #38 Whispered11, Jul 15, 2014
  14. seolseol

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    #39 seolseol, Jul 15, 2014
    Too bad
     
  15. Saku²

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    #40 Saku², Jul 15, 2014
  16. Dax

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    #41 Dax, Jul 15, 2014
    thanks
    funny thing, yesterday I was just about to post "anyway, there is nothing on debrecen's website" lolol
    and I even tried to have a look at google results in hungarian and there were only reports linking the spanish ones, so rumors.
     
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