2013/14 CCL: CHAMPIONSHIP STAGE [R]

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  1. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey @jared9999 , I got a stat for you: while Cruz Azul may be snakebit in two-leg finals since 1997, Toluca have never eliminated a fellow Mexican team in the CCL.

    AZUL! AZUL! AZUL! :D:cool::laugh::sneaky:
     
  2. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Well then on the 23rd Toluca is eliminating one.
     
  3. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Vamos Cruz Azul, te quiero ver subcampeon!!!!!

    otra vez!!!!
     
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  4. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The first leg is sold out. Hopefully Corona got himself a ticket...because CONCACAF upheld his one-game suspension. :(
     
  5. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    #205 It's called FOOTBALL, Apr 14, 2014
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2014
  6. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Solid player, but also something of a loose cannon with his tackles. At the very least, he can be relied upon if/when Toluca bring the heat in the second leg.
     
  7. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Today Toluca gets at least a draw to finish the job in the Bombonera!!!!
     
  8. Adrian559

    Adrian559 Member+

    Apr 29, 2011
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico

    no toluca es MUNDIAL!!! hahaa
     
  9. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    CONCACAF dropped the hammer on Corona: 3 games for inciting the opponent. Not sure if the MLS article is correct, though: wouldn't he serve the third game if/when Cruz Azul next qualify for the CCL?
     
  10. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I stand corrected.



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  11. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Corrected only if Blue Cross wins. ;)
     
  12. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    Paulie's hopin this happens in Leg 2:

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One of these, porfa:

     
  14. Of_Wires_And_Birds

    Mar 20, 2009
    Edinburg, Texas!
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Achille Emana will lead us to glory.
     
  15. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
  16. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well Corona will be allowed to play.

    That is good news for Blue Cross.
     
  17. sweethome_bama

    Jul 21, 2013
    Orange County
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great game. Congrats Blue Cross of California
     
  18. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Man Velasquez had the win for Toluca. Dude missed at least 2 easy opportunities.

    For punishment Toluca should loan him to the Chicago Fire. ;)
     
  19. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That Benitez goal was pretty sweet.
     
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  20. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hi @jared9999. ;)

    CRUZ AZUL CAMPEÓN!!! Off to Morocco we go, and wish us luck - la Máquina cementera will go to the Club World Cup to do what we do best: finish as subcampeón...i.e. the best run ever by a CONCACAF team. :D
     
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  21. Majin

    Majin Member+

    Arsenal
    Mexico
    May 7, 2013
    Zacatecas
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  22. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Congrats Paul
     
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  23. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Pretty cool that they had the president of the Costa Rican federation in the award ceremony. Who were the other people?
     
  24. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I want to know who was the dude that thought he was getting the golden globe award and had to be told it was not for him. lol.
     
  25. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have to admit, I'm glad that Brian Straus gathered up all the half-brained ideas of how to improve the CCL and consolidated them in one article. A brief rebuttal:

    • Outside of the UEFA Champions League, which has done a tremendous job marketing itself worldwide as the biggest teams hoard the best talent available, most Champions League tournaments only retain interest in a given country as long as its teams are involved. For instance, here in Peru, the Copa Libertadores has disappeared entirely from the sporting conversation, other than among the diehards - the sporting press is now focused on the UCL and the local Copa Inca.

    • "Is it CONCACAF’s fault that MLS and Central American teams can’t match Mexico?" No, so what do expect CONCACAF to do about it? The biggest reason that Mexican teams have utterly dominated the CCL is that there are more of them. In the Champions Cup era, all CONCACAF needed was for one of them to get knocked out and bam - one non-Mexican club guaranteed to make the final. Now, Liga MX has four shots at the title; and with only three exceptions in six years, the only thing stopping one Mexican club from CCL glory is another one. The only alternative here would be to reduce the number of Mexican teams participating - an unjustifiable move unless the entire field is contracted proportionally.

    • "Both MLS and CONCACAF have incentive to cooperate and build a tournament whose outcome interests fans regardless of their own particular affiliation." We've established that that already happens so long as a given country still has a team in contention (see: MLS4RSL). In that case, Straus is either arguing for a) fans across the region to get more educated on each others' teams, so that a Toluca-Cruz Azul final featuring two of the most successful clubs in the entire continent can get the attention it deserves, or b) MLS to be more competitive, which (scheduling aside; see below) is solely on MLS.

    • Why would MLS lobby CONCACAF to alter the schedule from the fall-spring format? If you want to talk about starting the knockout round a couple of weeks later, I'm all ears (although MLS teams could do themselves a favor by getting higher seeds --> easier quarterfinal match ups --> big games against Mexican teams later on, when they are further into the season). But I don't see why MLS teams would prefer burning up their squad for CCL knockout games in September and October (leaving them dead for the league playoffs) to doing so in April with little risk to their remaining campaigns.

    • "With eight months separating CCL success and the CWC quarterfinals, Mexican teams have fallen at the first hurdle in three of the past four years. Meanwhile, two African sides advanced to the final. Asian squads have finished third on three occasions since Mexico’s CONCACAF streak started in 2006." Never mind that the CWC has only been held in Africa and Asia. :rolleyes: And determining their champion early doesn't seem to hurt the European qualifiers.
     
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