2012 Player Salaries List

Bill honey, you need to either learn how to negotiate or quit being so humble. Methinks you are getting ripped off a little.

 

PS. The official Complaining About Branko Boskovic's Salary thread is here.

 

******** complaining about Bosko's salary (although he's not worth it, yet). I'm looking at McDonald, who I like but damn, and Jakovic (still way over paid) and Shanosky, not to pick on the kid but how in the hell?

 

What's the difference between Base and Guaranteed?

 

After watching McDonald play for the Quakes I was very curious to see what salary he got from DC. He had made it clear to the Quakes that he would go to Europe if he wasn't signed to a high salary (I had heard he was asking for well over $200k, but it was second hand info). That's the main reason the Quakes traded him last year, they didn't value him at the same salary level he valued himself and he was going to walk away at the end of the year. I was still surprised that he's making $258k guaranteed this year, that's more than all but the very top central defenders in MLS.

I guess the good news for you guys is that Brandon seems to be playing pretty well now, after a slow start.

 

As a buddy at work said, "Hire BMac's agent -- he's the best." If I were Pontius and Najar, I'd shoot my agent.

 

Call me crazy but McDonald is earning every last cent of that contract. Him and Woolard have been the 2 constants in a defense that has been stretched to the max. Statistically we are giving up 1.2 per game which is about 9th or 10th in the league ... so basically an average defense.

If you eliminate the abomination in San Jose we're actually giving up .9 goals per game which is up there with Seattle, KC and RSL. So basically championship contender level.

Oh yeah, and McD has his 3 assists. Just a little cherry on top.

 

Pontius has had bad luck with injuries. He hasn't really had a complete season to really use as a bargaining chip in any contract negotiations.

Hamid and Najar are really young. It's normal for good young players to be underpaid and older players to be overpaid. I'm certain that both Hamid and Najar will be signing much bigger contracts later in their careers ... hell maybe sooner that we wish

 

Sad that even with his deserved raise, DeRo is making about a third of what DeGuzman is making at Toronto. Since DeRo's check-writing celebration/stunt at Toronto, TFC have doled out $1 million-plus salaries to Mista (complete flop); DeGuzman (lazy d-mid, classic returning-from-Europe-to-collect-paycheck DP); Torsten Frings (decent when healthy, but usually hurt, and guilty of more boneheaded blunders this year than any DCU defender); and Danny Koevermans (one goal this year so far at a $1.5 million salary).

In retrospect, DeRo's act of defiance was too polite and too subtle. He was only there for two years, and no one is even close to him as the team's all-time leading scorer (27 goals).

It's complete, classic Eurosnobbery. Mista came from Spain. Frings came over from Germany. DeGuzman came from Spain. Koevermans, who has one goal this year and is making $1.5 million, came from Holland. DeRo came from Houston by way of San Jose by way of Richmond.

 

According to Jonathan Tannewald's calculations (a PU reporter) DC United have the 5th highest total mls player salary payroll (~3.5/4.2 million). The lowest is Houston at ~2.7/3 million.

 

These guys need raises:
Woolard
Hamid
Willis

 

No wonder people don't like Morsink, he gets a satanic guaranteed bonus of $666.67

:-D

 

For me, the interesting part is the clear distinction of the disparity of team spending.

Teams 4-19 each spend between $3mil and $4.2mil.

#3 - Toronto wastes $8.25 mil

#1-2 - La and NY each spend over $12mil

In the long run, this will ruin MLS if not corrected.

 

So you mean the other teams need to start paying our home grown players more and keep them home? I agree then ...

 

Thanks for your clear well thought out response combined with wit and sharp analytical observations. Your mother must be proud.

 

FYI through 5/20/12
BMac has been on the roster* for 172 MLS matches for 3 teams after being drafted late in the 4th round 2008.

By franchise the net difference between matches he started and matches he did not is:
Galaxy +4 more wins, 3 less losses, 7 less ties and 8 fewer goals scored but 18 fewer goals yielded for a plus 10 goal differential.
Quakes +9 more wins, 1 less loss, same number of ties and 13 more goals scored, 4 more goals yielded for a plus 9 goal differential
United +8 more wins, 7 more losses, one less tie and 28 more goals scored, 3 more goals yielded for a plus 25 goal differential

All 3 combined equals 21 more wins, 3 more losses, 8 less ties and 33 more goals scored, 11 less yielded for a plus 44 goal differential when BMac starts a match. To put it another way, when BMac has started his team got 1.42 points per match and when he didn't the team only scored at 1.04 clip. 1.42 is a playoff qualifying amount. The only season BMac started the whole season, the Quakes got to the conference final before losing to MLS Champ Colorado one nil.

Look at BMac minutes and you quickly realize that he plays a lot more than say, Dudar, Jackovic, Opara, and so many others that looked great on the pitch. But you had to look quickly to see them on the pitch as they were injured frequently.

I don't worry about salaries as that is a function of so many variables such as what year a player is in their contract. BMac is more than earning his keep IMO.

* I used the full season of 2011 for both the Quakes and United in order to compare the before and after results.

 

Question: DeRo makes $600k+ a year. The cutoff for a Designated Player is $350k, yet DeRo is not listed as a DP.

So, how does that add up? Is his contract being backfilled with allocation money? His total compensation is greater than both of DCU's actual DPs. The third DP slot must be purchased for a one-time fee of $250k - is this a way to avoid that fee?

DC hasn't really done an end-run around the rules here, since there are only three players on the roster with compensation in excess of $350k. However, some clubs are more obvious about it. Chivas pays Juan Pablo Angel a base salary of $350k (right at the DP threshold), but with guaranteed compensation of $600k - and he's not considered a DP. Salihi's base salary is below the threshold at $305k (total comp of $487k), and he is a DP.

I realize the MLSPA salary numbers are not the same thing as the cap hit for any given player, nor do they account for the sources of revenue used on any particular player.

 

I'm also really surprised to see Santos only making about $100k. I know his past has been up and down but I feel like that's pretty low for him, although admittedly I guess my opinion is a bit colored by his performance thus far in 2012.

 

The annual salary list serves to confirm my supposition that at any time an MLS player is likely to be either well overpaid or underpaid. Brian Namoff played 195 games for us, mostly as a starter, but it wasn't until quite late in his career that he touched $100k, IIRC. Brad Davis and Steward Holden were making peanuts even while they were showing MLS starting eleven quality. And there are many players nearing the end of their careers whose salaries far exceed their value on the pitch.

 

To be fair, you can say that about a lot of sports. MLB's CBA is particularly skewed towards cheap young players and expensive veterans.

Often, the younger players with lots of potential will get a bump via a signing bonus, but their actual salary numbers aren't all that big.

 

IIRC, DC is using "Allocation Money" to buy down his salary cap hit. I believe I'm right on this, but I can't quote you chapter & verse on MLS rules and regulations.

 

Go back and check the off-season threads regarding his acquisition. People were ready to cry bloody murder if he was making more than $50-60k. Funny how things work out.