2012 NHL Collective Bargaining Agreement talks

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  1. Goodsport

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    May 18, 1999
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    crazypete13 repped this.
  2. crazypete13

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    May 7, 2007
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    Last I read on this the owners were asking the players to take a revenue cut from 57 to 46% of hockey related revenues, and limiting what is defined as hockey related revenue.

    This essentially amounts to a similar 20% salary cut the players took to end the 2004-5 lockout. I doubt that will be the final number, but it seems like the owners are tying to use the CBA to save them from themselves again.
     
  3. Goodsport

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    Is there any realistic chance that this whole thing gets resolved by September 15th, or at least close enough to getting resolved by then that things don't immediately get shut down? :confused:


    -G
     
  4. ottawasportsfan

    Mar 18, 2005
    There has been some talk that the season could start even if there is no deal in place.
     
  5. Goodsport

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    In the absence of a new CBA deal, that would certainly be ideal.

    I've already seen commercials on NBC Sports Network touting the return of NHL play this fall (not specific matchups, but just NHL play overall). Hopefully those commercials don't come back to bite the channel. :eek:


    -G
     
  6. ottawasportsfan

    Mar 18, 2005
    From the players side this would be a smart move as it would show yes we do care about the fans and about the game way to many times does it seem like its about the money it would also let them win over some non hard core fans from the owners side it comes down to many can't afford no hockey this fall.
     
  7. Goodsport

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    True, though it seems that it's the owners that are balking at the current CBA while the players seem to like it as is. If there ends up being a work stoppage, it'll most likely be a lockout initiated by the owners rather than a strike initiated by the players. :eek:


    -G
     
  8. crazypete13

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    May 7, 2007
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    Honestly, if they were to play this year under the existing rules, and then figure out how to get a CBA done without a lockout/strike that would be the ideal scenario for fans. That's on the owners as I can't see the players actually choosing to strike, as they have nothing to gain by it.
     
  9. ottawasportsfan

    Mar 18, 2005
    My fear is if there is no hockey this fall the future of Columbus/Islanders/Phoenix/Florida could be up in the air.
     
  10. cleansheetbsc

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    Don Fehr should be castrated. If he is involved, the outcome isn't good for anyone.
     
  11. crazypete13

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  12. Goodsport

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  13. Goodsport

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    May 18, 1999
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  14. crazypete13

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    May 7, 2007
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    It's times like these that remind me how intensely I dislike Gary Bettman.

    There, I said it.

    Donald Fehr is only slightly better.
     
  15. crazypete13

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    May 7, 2007
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    Bettman's Gaffe

    Fans are not doormats that you can assume will show up regardless of labor unrest, this type of statement is a horrible assumption that fans would return after a second lockout in 8 seasons.
     
  16. Forza_Totti

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    Oct 16, 2006
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    AS Roma
    The "Fans" are irrelevant to Gary...he only calls us the greatest fans in the world when it's in front of a camera or the Cup final. I would love to see the minutes of the meetings and see how many times the word "fan has been stated.

    The new agreement that NHL put out was a 58m cap...not a=idal for most teams as a good 15 teams are above that number.

    Hoping for a lockout until Jan 1...
     
  17. Goodsport

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  18. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
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    May 18, 1999
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  19. Goodsport

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    May 18, 1999
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  20. DynamoEAR

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    May 30, 2011
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    Annnnnnddddd

    Lockout!
     
  21. crazypete13

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    May 7, 2007
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    A pox on both their houses.
     
  22. Goodsport

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  23. WhiteStar Warriors

    Mar 25, 2007
    St.Pete/Krakow
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    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is NHL single-entity structure?
     
  24. MasterShake29

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    Oct 28, 2001
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    No.
     
  25. WhiteStar Warriors

    Mar 25, 2007
    St.Pete/Krakow
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
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    United States
    Would it change if they didn't have a salary cap?
     

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