2012/14 Yuki Otsu @ VVV-Venlo (NED) Thread [R]

Dax · Aug 31, 2012

So yeah, in an incredible turn of events Otsu signed for VVV.

Good luck to him!

teioh · Aug 31, 2012

Now I hope he will play and not begginning from the bench even in this weak team...

Dax · Aug 31, 2012

VVV realized that they can't avoid relegation without a new japanese player.

c shima · Aug 31, 2012

And just when we thought we were done with VVV...

teioh · Aug 31, 2012

Added Venlo to my mobile app again...

Whispered11 · Aug 31, 2012

I can't stand VVV anymore.. please, stop sign Japanese players!
The only good thing is that, as long as Yuki plays, everything can happen.

Loan or transfer?
And i repeat myself: why the ******** BM bought Otsu in the 1st place? If Favre can answer to this question, he can go ruining himself anywhere he wants.

Dax · Aug 31, 2012

Are you mad?
Please VVV, keep signing players. Clearly you don't understand how important is this club and its president. They launched Honda. They helped Yoshida reach the Premier League.
They will give Otsu plenty of playtime in Eredivisie. What else do you need? I'd undertstood if they were in the 2nd division, but come on... do you think Otsu went there refusing other offers? Probably not, so they were the only one that believed in him and do you wanna bet that he'll be out of there in 1 or 2 years?

In regards to Favre, well, it's not him that signed him. Not only: he even refused him:
"It is difficult to judge a player completely, after four days. I've seen good things with him, but I'm not 100 per cent convinced that he is really better than the players we have in the squad. Therefore we will not sign him."
But even if the trial wasn't "successful" the club decided to buy him. He made it even clear: "Maybe Yuki is more a player for the future, but players from Japan are all tactically and technically very well trained,” Favre told the club's website."

seolseol · Aug 31, 2012

Dax_ said: ↑

Are you mad?
Please VVV, keep signing players. Clearly you don't understand how important is this club and its president. They launched Honda. They helped Yoshida reach the Premier League.
They will give Otsu plenty of playtime in Eredivisie. What else do you need? I'd undertstood if they were in the 2nd division, but come on... do you think Otsu went there refusing other offers? Probably not, so they were the only one that believed in him and do you wanna bet that he'll be out of there in 1 or 2 years?

In regards to Favre, well, it's not him that signed him. Not only: he even refused him:
"It is difficult to judge a player completely, after four days. I've seen good things with him, but I'm not 100 per cent convinced that he is really better than the players we have in the squad. Therefore we will not sign him."
But even if the trial wasn't "successful" the club decided to buy him. He made it even clear: "Maybe Yuki is more a player for the future, but players from Japan are all tactically and technically very well trained,” Favre told the club's website."
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Good post!

Blue-San · Aug 31, 2012

Yuki will play (or he better) in VVV and in the Dutch league which is like a spring for attacking minded players, if he does great and is as capable as majority of us think, than he will use this year and use it well better than he could have in Borussia Monchengladbach and that by far

Loads if not all of the bigger clubs have scouts or connections in Holland if he does well he will be surely noticed and if he does really well he ll be noticed by some good clubs

good "transfer"

Dax · Aug 31, 2012

p.s. he has signed a 2 years contract

HINT HINT. They expect him to be successful, and then he will be sold

seolseol · Aug 31, 2012

Dax_ said: ↑

p.s. he has signed a 2 years contract

HINT HINT. They expect him to be successful, and then he will be sold
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To Bundesliga haha

SamuraiBlue2002 · Aug 31, 2012

Should have never gone to BM in the first place. Everyone on the forum knew something was wrong when they invited him back after rejecting him the first time.

Majster2 · Aug 31, 2012

Dax_ said: ↑

HINT HINT. They expect him to be successful, and then he will be sold
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And that WILL happen in Venlo

Arash1995 · Aug 31, 2012

VVV is actually very helpful to the Japanese football.
Honda and Yoshida learned a lot of things at VVV and now they have rescued Otsu.
The only thing I hate on them is that they sold Honda to the ********ing Russian league.

nakata101 · Aug 31, 2012

Arash1995 said: ↑

VVV is actually very helpful to the Japanese football.
Honda and Yoshida learned a lot of things at VVV and now they have rescued Otsu.
The only thing I hate on them is that they sold Honda to the ********ing Russian league.
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hmm... this is how a club do their business, sold it to the club with higher bid, at least Maya dint follow the step of Honda....

SugarDaddySean · Aug 31, 2012

What a nightmare...the positive things to take away from this is he will immediately be a starter and get to play along side two Japanese players in Yoshida and Cullen. Should be an easy transition for him and not much pressure to perform.

Blue-San · Aug 31, 2012

he wont play next to yoshida thats for sure

AKITOD · Sep 1, 2012

This is a good move

sc-f · Sep 1, 2012

All happy. Time to impress and become Honda II.

teioh · Sep 1, 2012

sc-f said: ↑

All happy. Time to impress and become Honda II.
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You mean he will end up in CSKA special jail?

feyenoordsoccerfan · Sep 2, 2012

Blue-San said: ↑

Yuki will play (or he better) in VVV and in the Dutch league which is like a spring for attacking minded players, if he does great and is as capable as majority of us think, than he will use this year and use it well better than he could have in Borussia Monchengladbach and that by far

Loads if not all of the bigger clubs have scouts or connections in Holland if he does well he will be surely noticed and if he does really well he ll be noticed by some good clubs

good "transfer"
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The reason behind this is that Dutch coaches most of the time get players that arenot yet the "full product", so they have to invest in developing the skills and brains of those players. In the big leagues coaches are judged primarily by the results they get, so a player has to deliver from the start and the coaches are only busy with preparing the team with winning the next game. Foreign players that have to learn the ropes of the game suffer from that, because they donot get the attention to their solvable deficiencies they get in the "Eredivisie". In the "Eredivisie" you learn the game at the highest level tactically and technically. Than you go to a big league to learn to put it into practice under more demanding physically and speedy conditions.

Dax · Sep 2, 2012

Good post, thanks! Pretty much true, as there are really many young players in every team there.

sc-f · Sep 2, 2012

http://www.soccer-king.jp/news/world/ned/20120902/69069.html

Was told by Favre to stay upon return from the Olympics, had made up his mind before to leave the club, grateful for the year at BMG... etc.

theofaron · Sep 2, 2012

So I expect VVV -> Barcelona

Dax · Sep 2, 2012

Interesting, still made the right choice though. It's always easy to jump on the bandwagon later, right, Favre? And he wouldn't have been a starter anyway