2012/14 Hiroshi Kiyotake @ 1. FC Nuremberg (GER) Thread [R]

Turns out his contract is valid for 2. Bundesliga.

 

Who the hell would vote for Kiyotake lol

 

i did.

 

I voted for him too, but I thought it was quite funny that the guy talking doesn't know anything about the Samurai Blue. Kiyotake hardly plays and is hardly a regular in the starting XI. And he is certainly not "Japan's World Cup hope in midfield." Sometimes I wish that wasn't the case because I like Kiyotake, but at least do some research for goodness' sake. It really isn't that hard to check if he is a bench player or a regular starter. But maybe the guy was just fed information to say that someone else wrote down.

 

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/h...otake-mit-runter-in-liga-2-36332430.bild.html

Just 5m for Kiyotake, just a half of last-year bid, come on Paul Lambert.

 

When is this guy going to leave Nurnberg ? He is way too good for the 2.Bundesliga...

 

Yes, I doubted that too. Actually I think 5m for him is quite reasonable as compared to equal to the fee Mainz spent on Koo early this year. They have same quality.

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2014/03...n-aston-villa-target-hiroshi-kiyotake/133710/

This article was in March. I don't know whether it's reliable but Nürnberg wanted around 8m, for now it's down to 5m. Plus, Rakitic seems to join Barcelona soon, so they've gotta find someone to take over from. I glad to see Kiyotake in Spain.

 

http://www.sanspo.com/soccer/news/20140625/pre14062505040002-n1.html

Sanspo wrote that Aston Villa finally made a 5M offer for him.

 

Another waste to the EPL? Why? Please move to La Liga, PLEASE.

 

There havent really been any decent ones. Naka after he was spent is the only major name that comes to mind.
We've already seen epl waste kagawa and ina. I like yoshida there as a central defender ... but would love to see some established attackers in spain. Their style and physique is very similar.
otherwise, rather see him stay in germany even if its not top flight than go to epl

 

So its as i was saying. If okubo is the best name you can throw out... i could throw out as many triers that have failed in germany and italy. Including okubo again.
I suppose players should stop going there too.

 

let me break it down for you barney style...
- Epl have wasted several players with known quality
- only one such player has gone to la liga, and it was the end of his career

So in terms of the argument *you* raised, spain is an unknown... but epl is a known bad destination

In terms of style, economics, etc.
it seems obvious to me why epl is a no go. I see plenty of reasons why la liga wouldnt be any different than italy, which has been decently fair, and some good reason to suspect it'd be as good or better than germany
Germans, like jleague traditionally, often rely on strong CFs (generally imported in jleague) ... this is a winning strategy but does jnt no favors since jnt cant import such players. Spain, however, has worked with players like david villa up front. And a lot of teams in la liga follow that model.
Jnt needs attackers in the mold of a david villa... there is never going to be a dzeko for jnt

 

Not so much a reliable source but:

villa puppet @VPuppet · 21h
#avfc are confident of finally bringing Japanese world cup and Nuremborg midfielder Kiyotake to Villa Park believed to be around £6 million

I heard somewhere that they didn't manage to sign Holtby. So Kiyotake's their back-up.

Plus, Paul Lambert's Aston Villa summer spending limited to just £10million - INCLUDING wages

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/paul-lamberts-aston-villa-summer-3783008

 

He can be good at Villa Park.

 

I wanna simply like the idea to see a talented player as Kiyotake in an "important" league less physical and less denfesive than EPL.

 

Hamburg are trying to sign him.