2012/13 Takashi Usami @ Hoffenheim (GER) Thread [R]

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  1. Dax

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    Feb 29, 2012
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    to be fair, I'm not sure I get the point then. The same applies for both, and yeah Shinji doesn't play like that. I've never seen Usami getting around the GK, just to say a random thing.
    If you're wondering if Kagawa has ever dribbled past 3 defenders, well he has done that quite often but not with the same dribbling type
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufjJIhtsNuU&t=19s

    Oh and with that said I like Usami's dribblings more! :)
     
  2. Saku²

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    Aug 22, 2009
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    YES.
    That's it. They're both different. Usami is faster, more explosive and can make dribbling raids unlike Kagawa. This is not criticism towards Shinji, nor a "who's the best, Songoku or Superman" battle, this is just how it is. Kagawa doesn't curl the shot blabla if had been in Usami's position because he would have never gotten there in the first place.

    But that doesn't mean he's a better player than Kagawa. He's a superior talent, the equivalent of Neymar at the same age level, but he might never have a single season as good as the ones Kagawa had with Dortmund.
     
  3. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
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    Manchester United FC
    Starting against Mainz.
     
  4. sc-f

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    May 23, 2009
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    SC Freiburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
  5. theofaron

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    May 11, 2011
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    Haha, they just keep trading amongst themselves.
     
  6. seolseol

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    Apr 26, 2003
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  7. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
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    Kashima Antlers
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    How did he do?
     
  8. sc-f

    sc-f Member+

    May 23, 2009
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    Usami not even on the bench today (vs Wolfsburg with Hasebe starting). No information about if he's injured.
     
  9. seolseol

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    Apr 26, 2003
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  10. Whispered11

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Hoffenheim like Vissel Kobe: you think that they will reach some big achievement and then they try to be relegated..
    Really, Usami can't change that.
     
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  11. Dax

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    Feb 29, 2012
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    Well he could at least start like he did before...

     
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  12. Dax

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    Feb 29, 2012
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    didn't even play, really?
    Better hope they keep that spot so that they will at least play the playoffs... :rolleyes:
     
  13. Dax

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    Feb 29, 2012
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    Goodbye Babbel!
    U23 coach takes the team for the moment
     
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  14. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
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    Kashima Antlers
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    Japan
    Why is he not playing in the first line up?
     
  15. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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    And how do you know that, since the match is this evening?
     
  16. Blue-San

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    Jun 21, 2011
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    I meant last few matches
     
  17. Dax

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    Feb 29, 2012
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    Ah, technical choices I guess. Looks like they didn't pay off at all, though, since the coach was sacked
     
  18. Saku²

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    Aug 22, 2009
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    Looks like the first coach isn't a fan at the first glance
     
  19. Dax

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    Feb 29, 2012
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    Looks like he'll enjoy a short spell with this kind of performances, too.
    (btw I'm not really concerned about Usami... Hoffenheim could all be relegated too, he would easily find another Bundesliga team)
     
  20. sc-f

    sc-f Member+

    May 23, 2009
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    SC Freiburg
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    Japan
    Not sure about that. If he can't convince 3 coaches, what would make the 4th think that he is what he needs?
     
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  21. Dax

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    Feb 29, 2012
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    Well, I really don't even want to count Bayern's coach, sorry. In regards to Babbel, I wouldn't say he didn't convince him since he played pretty much always apart from the last 2 or 3 matches.
    Let's see what happens under the new coach
    Oh and btw transfers often don't even "involve" the coach... to find your way in the lineup that's another issue, of course.
    I'm gonna sentence that he will never be back in J League, at least not before 28. We'll see if I'm right anyway :p
     
  22. sc-f

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    May 23, 2009
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    SC Freiburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Well it depends on how you define "involve". If a sports director signs a player without making sure the coach is in line with that acquisition, the player will have a difficult life at his new club. The most recent of these cases involving Japanese or former J.league players were Makino and Tese, and we know where this ended.

    Of all the current players in BuLi, I'd only see Hosogai as a similar case, and I am really not sure what happens once Kadlec is fit again.
     
  23. Dax

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    Feb 29, 2012
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    TSG 1899 Hoffenheim
    Wiese – Beck (77. Ochs), Delpierre, Vestergaard, Johnson – Firmino, Weis, Salihovic, Usami – Derdiyok (54. Joselu), Volland (69. Grifo).

    SC Heerenveen
    Nordfeldt – Kum, Gouweleeuw, Zomer, Kruiswijk – Kums – van la Parra, de Roon (46. Van Anholt), Marecek (64. Zuiverloon), Pappa (72. Uth) – Djuricic.

    Estadio da Nora (Albufeira). – Zuschauer: 250. -
    Tore: 1:0 van la Parra (18.), 1:1 Vestergaard (36.), 1:2 Usami (40.), 1:3 Joselu (89.).

    Didn't find any highlights for the moment
     
  24. sc-f

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    May 23, 2009
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    SC Freiburg
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    Seems like the new coach trusts him over the youngster Babbel used at the end.

    Btw those test match datas... he was subbed off in the 59th.
     
  25. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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