2011 worlds best leagues

Discussion in 'Statistics and Analysis' started by la saeta rubia, Jul 23, 2011.

  1. zoomic

    zoomic New Member

    Jan 9, 2010
    nothing important, I think Champions league is good enough
     
  2. ashleysoc

    ashleysoc New Member

    Sep 15, 2011
    Club:
    AC Milan
    spain is perfect on top , brasil should be on 2nd ... Brazil Soccer Rocks :)
     
  3. vettefredje redded

    Sep 12, 2011
    Club:
    PSV Eindhoven
    Leagues are good now, but there should be more respect for the FIFA Club World Cup, it is the only league to create a real world champion.
     
  4. Bandeirante_SPFC

    Nov 15, 2005
    Sao Paulo, SP
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Of course the 'Série A' is behind the Spaniard, french, german, italian and english leagues. However this picture will change.

    Brazil is growing really fast. The 2014 World Cup is bringing new infrastructure like new stadiums and the old ones are being refurbished. New subway stations and a lot of new stuff.

    Next year, the 'Globo Broadcast System' will pay almost R$1 billion/year (today is around R$ 400 million/year) to broadcast the 'Série A'. That's a lot of money.

    I'm pretty sure that in 2014-16 the 'Série A' will be the best Football Championship in the World. Even why what sustain the European Football is the Euro currency and the Euro is almost broken. See the Greece, Ireland and Italy. It would be no surprise the european countries to return to their old currencies.

    There are some really good players here that are totally unkown in Europe like Borges (Santos), Dagoberto (São Paulo), Rhodolfo (São Paulo), Kleber (Palmeiras), ... and others that could easily play in all those 'first class' european leagues.

    Well... let's see what happens for the next 3 or 4 years in the world of football. The things is changing. Pay attention folks.
     
  5. vettefredje redded

    Sep 12, 2011
    Club:
    PSV Eindhoven
    The best leagues/clubs are the richest, here the rich-list:

    Sports clubs with an annual revenue of at least €20 million

    1. Real Madrid CF - Association football - Spain - €450 million
    2. FC Barcelona - Association football - Spain - €420 million
    3. New York Yankees - Baseball - United States - €416 million
    4. FC Bayern Munich - Association football - Germany - €323 million
    5. Manchester United FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €322 million
    6. Dallas Cowboys - American football - United States - €294 million
    7. Arsenal FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €252 million
    8. Washington Redskins - American football - United States - €247 million
    9. Chelsea FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €235 million
    10. New York Mets - Baseball - United States - €233 million
    11. Boston Red Sox - Baseball - United States - €231 million
    12. AC Milan - Association football - Italy - €227 million
    13. FC Internazionale Milano - Association football - Italy - €224 million
    14. New England Patriots - American football - United States - €222 million
    15. Yomiuri Giants - Baseball - Japan - €214 million
    16. Liverpool FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €207 million
    17. Juventus FC - Association football - Italy - €205 million
    18. Los Angeles Dodgers - Baseball - United States - €205 million
    19. Chicago Cubs - Baseball - United States - €204 million
    20. Houston Texans - American football - United States - €190 million
    21. Philadelphia Phillies - Baseball - United States - €187 million
    22. LA Angels of Anaheim - Baseball - United States - €186 million
    23. Philadelphia Eagles - American football - United States - €182 million
    24. Baltimore Ravens - American football - United States - €178 million
    25. Chicago Bears - American football - United States - €178 million
    26. Denver Broncos - American football - United States - €175 million
    27. Carolina Panthers - American football - United States - €173 million
    28. Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks - Baseball - Japan - €173 million
    29. Hanshin Tigers - Baseball - Japan - €173 million
    30. Indianapolis Colts - American football - United States - €173 million
    31. Miami Dolphins - American football - United States - €173 million
    32. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - American football - United States - €172 million
    33. New Orleans Saints - American football - United States - €171 million
    34. Pittsburgh Steelers - American football - United States - €170 million
    35. Cleveland Browns - American football - United States - €169 million
    36. FC Schalke 04 - Association football - Germany - €169 million
    37. Green Bay Packers - American football - United States - €169 million
    38. Tennessee Titans - American football - United States - €169 million
    39. New York Giants - American football - United States - €168 million
    40. Seattle Seahawks - American football - United States - €168 million
    41. New York Jets - American football - United States - €166 million
    42. Arizona Cardinals - American football - United States - €165 million
    43. Kansas City Chiefs - American football - United States - €164 million
    44. San Diego Chargers - American football - United States - €163 million
    45. Cincinnati Bengals - American football - United States - €162 million
    46. Atlanta Falcons - American football - United States - €161 million
    47. Buffalo Bills - American football - United States - €159 million
    48. New York Knicks - Basketball - United States - €158 million
    49. San Francisco 49ers - American football - United States - €158 million
    50. St. Louis Rams - American football - United States - €156 million
    51. Jacksonville Jaguars - American football - United States - €154 million
    52. Minnesota Vikings - American football - United States - €154 million
    53. Oakland Raiders - American football - United States - €152 million
    54. Los Angeles Lakers - Basketball - United States - €150 million
    55. Minnesota Twins - Baseball - United States - €149 million
    56. Detroit Lions - American football - United States - €147 million
    57. Hamburger SV - Association football - Germany - €146 million
    58. Olympique Lyonnais - Association football - France - €146 million
    59. San Francisco Giants - Baseball - United States - €144 million
    60. Olympique de Marseille - Association football - France - €142 million
    61. Manchester City FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €140 million
    62. St. Louis Cardinals - Baseball - United States - €136 million
    63. Chicago White Sox - Baseball - United States - €135 million
    64. Tottenham Hotspur FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €134 million
    65. Seattle Mariners - Baseball - United States - €131 million
    66. Toronto Maple Leafs - Ice Hockey - Canada - €131 million
    67. Houston Astros - Baseball - United States - €128 million
    68. Atlanta Braves - Baseball - United States - €127 million
    69. Detroit Tigers - Baseball - United States - €127 million
    70. Atlético Madrid - Association football - Spain - €124 million
    71. AS Roma - Football - Italy - €122 million
    72. Washington Nationals - Baseball - United States - €122 million
    73. Colorado Rockies - Baseball - United States - €120 million
    74. Chicago Bulls - Basketball - United States - €118 million
    75. Texas Rangers - Baseball - United States - €117 million
    76. Fenerbahçe SK - Association football - Turkey - €116 million
    77. FC Girondins de Bordeaux - Association football - France - €115 million
    78. Montreal Canadiens - Ice Hockey - Canada - €114 million
    79. VfB Stuttgart - Association football - Germany - €114 million
    80. Cleveland Cavaliers - Basketball - United States - €112 million
    81. Houston Rockets - Basketball - United States - €107 million
    82. New York Rangers - Ice Hockey - United States - €107 million
    83. Arizona Diamondbacks - Baseball - United States - €106 million
    84. Baltimore Orioles - Baseball - United States - €105 million
    85. Borussia Dortmund - Association football - Germany - €105 million
    86. Boston Celtics - Basketball - United States - €105 million
    87. Milwaukee Brewers - Baseball - United States - €105 million
    88. Cleveland Indians - Baseball - United States - €104 million
    89. Detroit Pistons - Basketball - United States - €103 million
    90. Phoenix Suns - Basketball - United States - €103 million
    91. Dallas Mavericks - Basketball - United States - €102 million
    92. Hiroshima Toyo Carp - Baseball - Japan - €101 million
    93. Valencia CF - Association football - Spain - €101 million
    94. Aston Villa FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €100 million
    95. VfL Wolfsburg - Association football - Germany - €100 million
    96. Cincinnati Reds - Baseball - United States - €99 million
    97. Sevilla FC - Association football - Spain - €99 million
    98. SL Benfica - Association football - Portugal - €98 million
    99. SV Werder Bremen - Association football - Germany - €96 million
    100. Toronto Raptors - Basketball - Canada - €96 million
    101. ACF Fiorentina - Association football - Italy - €95 million
    102. Chunichi Dragons - Baseball - Japan - €95 million
    103. SC Corinthians Paulista - Association football - Brazil - €95 million
    104. Toronto Blue Jays - Baseball - Canada - €95 million
    105. San Antonio Spurs - Basketball - United States - €94 million
    106. Chiba Lotte Marines - Baseball - Japan - €92 million
    107. SSC Napoli - Association football - Italy - €92 million
    108. Everton FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €89 million
    109. FC Zenit Saint Petersburg - Association football - Russia - €89 million
    110. Portland Trail Blazers - Basketball - United States - €89 million
    111. SC Internacional - Association football - Brazil - €89 million
    112. San Diego Padres - Baseball - United States - €87 million
    113. São Paulo FC - Association football - Brazil - €87 million
    114. Fulham FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €86 million
    115. Miami Heat - Basketball - United States - €86 million
    116. Tampa Bay Rays - Baseball - United States - €86 million
    117. Chicago Blackhawks - Ice Hockey - United States - €84 million
    118. Kansas City Royals - Baseball - United States - €84 million
    119. Oakland Athletics - Baseball - United States - €84 million
    120. Philadelphia Flyers - Ice Hockey - United States - €84 million
    121. Utah Jazz - Basketball - United States - €84 million
    122. Detroit Red Wings - Ice Hockey - United States - €83 million
    123. Golden State Warriors - Basketball - United States - €83 million
    124. Vancouver Canucks - Ice Hockey - Canada - €83 million
    125. Oklahoma City Thunder - Basketball - United States - €82 million
    126. Paris Saint-Germain FC - Association football - France - €82 million
    127. SS Lazio - Association football - Italy - €82 million
    128. West Ham United FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €80 million
    129. Denver Nuggets - Basketball - United States - €79 million
    130. Hertha BSC - Football - Germany - €79 million
    131. Boston Bruins - Ice Hockey - United States - €77 million
    132. Philadelphia 76ers - Basketball - United States - €77 million
    133. Bayer 04 Leverkusen - Association football - Germany - €75 million
    134. Orlando Magic - Basketball - United States - €75 million
    135. Washington Wizards - Basketball - United States - €75 million
    136. Atlanta Hawks - Basketball - United States - € 73 million
    137. Sunderland AFC - Association football - United Kingdom - €73 million
    138. 1. FC Köln - Association football - Germany - €72 million
    139. New Jersey Devils - Ice Hockey - United States - €72 million
    140. Pittsburgh Pirates - Baseball - United States - €72 million
    141. Sacramento Kings - Basketball - United States - €72 million
    142. Borussia Mönchengladbach - Association football - Germany - €71 million
    143. Los Angeles Clippers - Basketball - United States - €71 million
    144. Florida Marlins - Baseball - United States - €70 million
    145. New Orleans Hornets - Basketball - United States - €70 million
    146. AFC Ajax - Association football - Netherlands €69 million
    147. Celtic FC - Association football - United Kingdom - United States - €69 million
    148. Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters - Baseball - Japan - €69 million
    149. Calgary Flames - Ice Hockey - Canada - €68 million
    150. Charlotte Bobcats - Basketball - United States - €68 million
    151. Eintracht Frankfurt - Association football - Germany - €68 million
    152. FC Porto - Association football - Portugal - €68 million
    153. Los Angeles Kings - Ice Hockey - United States - €68 million
    154. US Città di Palermo - Association football - Italy - €68 million
    155. Wolverhampton Wanderers FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €68 million
    156. Ottawa Senators - Ice Hockey - Canada - €67 million
    157. Portsmouth FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €67 million
    158. Dallas Stars - Ice Hockey - United States - €66 million
    159. Indiana Pacers - Basketball - United States - € 66million
    160. Minnesota Timberwolves - Basketball - United States - € 66million
    161. SE Palmeiras - Association football - Brazil - € 66million
    162. Tohoku Rakuten Golden Eagles - Baseball - Japan - €66 million
    163. Blackburn Rovers FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €65 million
    164. Texas Longhorns football - American football - United States - €65 million
    165. Memphis Grizzlies - Basketball - United States - €64 million
    166. Milwaukee Bucks - Basketball - United States - €64 million
    167. Minnesota Wild - Ice Hockey - United States - €64 million
    168. Birmingham City FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €63 million
    169. Pittsburgh Penguins - Ice Hockey - United States - €63 million
    170. Rangers FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €63 million
    171. San Jose Sharks - Ice Hockey - United States - €61 million
    172. Bolton Wanderers FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €60 million
    173. Edmonton Oilers - Ice Hockey - Canada - €60 million
    174. Stoke City FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €60 million
    175. Anaheim Ducks - Ice Hockey - United States - €59 million
    176. Newcastle United FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €59 million
    177. Trabzonspor - Association football - Turkey - €58 million
    178. Villarreal CF - Association football - Spain - €58 million
    179. Colorado Avalanche - Ice Hockey - United States - €57 million
    180. CR Flamengo - Association football - Brazil - €57 million
    181. Genoa CFC - Association football - Italy - €57 million
    182. Washington Capitals - Ice Hockey - United States - €57 million
    183. Blackpool FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €56 million
    184. Buffalo Sabres - Ice Hockey - United States - €56 million
    185. Collingwood FC - Australian rules football - Australia - €56 million
    186. Athletic Bilbao - Association football - Spain - €55 million
    187. Lille OSC - Association football - France - €55 million
    188. New Jersey Nets - Basketball - United States - €55 million
    189. St. Louis Blues - Ice Hockey - United States - €55 million
    190. Urawa Red Diamonds - Association football - Japan - €55 million
    191. Wigan Athletic FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €55 million
    192. Guangzhou Evergrande FC - Association football - PR China - €54 million
    193. Columbus Blue Jackets - Ice Hockey - United States - €53 million
    194. Florida Panthers - Ice Hockey - United States - €53 million
    195. Tampa Bay Lightning - Ice Hockey - United States - €53 million
    196. Carolina Hurricanes - Ice Hockey - United States - €52 million
    197. FC Red Bull Salzburg - Association football - Austria - €52 million
    198. Hull City AFC - Association football - United Kingdom - €52 million
    199. Santos FC - Association football - Brazil - €52 million
    200. Tokyo Yakult Swallows - Baseball - Japan - €52 million
    201. West Bromwich Albion FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €52 million
    202. Yokohama BayStars - Baseball - Japan - €52 million
    203. Burnley FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €51 million
    204. Nashville Predators - Ice Hockey - United States - €51 million
    205. PSV Eindhoven - Association football - Netherlands - €51 million
    206. RC Lens - Association football - France - €51 million
    207. Alabama Crimson Tide football - American football - United States - €50 million
    208. Grêmio FBPA - Association football - Brazil - €50 million
    209. Hannover 96 - Association football - Germany - €50 million
    210. FC Spartak Moscow - Association football - Russia - €49 million
    211. Georgia Bulldogs football - American football - United States - €49 million
    212. Penn State Nittany Lions football - American football - United States - €49 million
    213. RCD Espanyol - Association football - Spain - €49 million
    214. Winnepeg Jets - Ice Hockey - Canada - €49 million
    215. AS Monaco FC - Association football - France - €48 million
    216. FC Basel - Association football - Switzerland - €48 million
    217. Florida Gators football - American football - United States - €48 million
    218. Galatasaray SK - Association football - Turkey - €48 million
    219. LSU Tigers football - American football - United States - €48 million
    220. 1. FC Nuremberg - Association football - Germany - €47 million
    221. Middlesbrough FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €47 million
    222. Saitama Seibu Lions - Baseball - Japan - €47 million
    223. Auburn Tigers football - American football - United States - €46 million
    224. AZ - Association football - Netherlands - €46 million
    225. Besiktas JK - Association football - Turkey - €46 million
    226. Phoenix Coyotes - Ice Hockey - United States - €46 million
    227. Cruzeiro EC - Association football - Brazil - €45 million
    228. FC Copenhagen - Association football - Denmark - €45 million
    229. FC Dynamo Moscow - Association football - Russia - €45 million
    230. FC Twente - Association football - Netherlands - €45 million
    231. PFC CSKA Moscow - Association football - Russia - €45 million
    232. AS Saint-Étienne - Association football - France - €44 million
    233. Michigan Wolverines football - American football - United States - €44 million
    234. New York Islanders - Ice Hockey - United States - €44 million
    235. Ohio State Buckeyes football - American football - United States - €44 million
    236. Olympiacos FC - Association football - Greece - €44 million
    237. Stade Rennais FC - Association football - France - €44 million
    238. Standard Liège - Association football - Belgium - €44 million
    239. UC Sampdoria - Association football - Italy - €44 million
    243. AC Siena - Association football - Italy - €43 million
    240. Feyenoord - Association football - Netherlands - €43 million
    241. Orix Buffaloes - Baseball - Japan - €43 million
    242. Parma FC - Association football - Italy - €43 million
    243. Cagliari Calcio - Association football - Italy - €42 million
    244. CD Guadalajara - Association football - Mexico - €42 million
    245. Salavat Yulaev Ufa - Ice Hockey - Russia - €42 million
    246. Udinese Calcio - Association football - Italy - €42 million
    247. Clube Atlético Mineiro - Association football - Brazil - €41 million
    248. FC Lokomotiv Moscow - Association football - Russia - €41 million
    249. Notre Dame Fighting Irish football - American football - United States - €41 million
    250. TSG 1899 Hoffenheim - Association football - Germany - €41 million
    251. HC Ak Bars Kazan - Ice Hockey - Russia - €40 million
    252. Oklahoma Sooners football - American football - United States - €40 million
    253. South Carolina Gamecocks football - American football - United States - €40 million
    254. Torino FC - Association football - Italy - €40 million
    255. AJ Auxerre - Association football - France - €39 million
    256. Bologna FC 1909 - Association football - Italy - €39 million
    257. Calcio Catania - Association football - Italy - €39 million
    258. Nagoya Grampus - Association football - Japan - €39 million
    259. Tennessee Volunteers football - American football - United States - €39 million
    260. Toulouse FC - Association football - France - €39 million
    261. Kashima Antlers - Association football - Japan - €38 million
    262. VfL Bochum - Association football - Germany - €38 million
    263. CR Vasco da Gama - Association football - Brazil €37 million
    264. Reading FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €37 million
    265. US Lecce - Association football - Italy - €37 million
    266. West Coast Eagles - Australian rules football - Australia - €37 million
    267. Le Mans FC - Association football - France - €36 million
    268. AC ChievoVerona - Association football - Italy - €35 million
    269. Atalanta BC - Association football - Italy - €35 million
    270. Deportivo de La Coruña - Association football - Spain - €35 million
    271. Derby County FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €35 million
    272. Gamba Osaka - Association football - Japan - €35 million
    273. Nebraska Cornhuskers football - American football - United States - €35 million
    274. Real Betis - Association football - Spain - €35 million
    275. Real Sociedad - Association football - Spain - €35 million
    276. RSC Anderlecht - Association football - Belgium - €35 million
    277. SKA Saint Petersburg - Ice Hockey - Russia - €35 million
    278. Arkansas Razorbacks football - American football - United States - €34 million
    279. Fluminense FC - Association football - Brazil - €34 million
    280. Odense BK - Association football - Denmark - €34 million
    281. Real Zaragoza - Association football - Spain - €34 million
    282. SK Rapid Wien - Association football - Austria - €34 million
    283. Sporting Clube de Portugal - Association football - Portugal €34 million
    284. Boca Juniors - Association football - Argentina - €33 million
    285. Essendon FC - Australian rules football - Australia - €33 million
    286. Geelong FC - Australian rules football - Australia - €33 million
    287. 1. FSV Mainz 05 - Association football - Germany - €32 million
    288. Arminia Bielefeld - Association football - Germany - €32 million
    289. FC Tokyo - Association football - Japan - €32 million
    290. Iowa Hawkeyes football - American football - United States - €32 million
    291. Metallurg Magnitogorsk - Ice Hockey - Russia - €32 million
    292. Olympiacos BC - Basketball - Greece - €32 million
    293. Reggina Calcio - Association football - Italy - €32 million
    294. Avangard Omsk - Ice Hockey - Russia - €31 million
    295. BSC Young Boys - Association football - Switzerland - €31 million
    296. Club América - Association football - Mexico - €31 million
    297. FC Lorient - Association football - France - €31 million
    298. Kawasaki Frontale - Association football - Japan - €31 million
    299. Michigan State Spartans football - American football - United States - €31 million
    300. ACR Messina - Association football - Italy - €30 million
    301. AS Nancy - Association football - France - €30 million
    302. Clube Atlético Paranaense - Association football - Brazil - €30 million
    303. FC Augsburg - Association football - Germany - €30 million
    304. FC Barcelona Bàsquet - Basketball - Spain - €30 million
    305. FC Rubin Kazan - Association football - Russia - €30 million
    306. FC Sochaux-Montbéliard - Association football - France - €30 million
    307. Hawthorn FC - Australian rules football - Australia - €30 million
    308. Karlsruher SC - Association football - Germany - €30 million
    309. Leeds United AFC - Association football - United Kingdom - €30 million
    310. Omiya Ardija - Association football - Japan - €30 million
    311. Panathinaikos BC - Basketball - Greece - €30 million
    312. SC Freiburg - Association football - Germany - €30 million
    313. SC Heerenveen - Association football - Netherlands - €30 million
    314. Shimizu S-Pulse - Association football - Japan - €30 million
    315. Southern Redbacks - Cricket - Australia - €30 million
    316. Yokohama F. Marinos - Association football - Japan - €30 million
    317. Chennai Super Kings - Cricket - India - €29 million
    318. FC Saturn Moscow Oblast - Association football - Russia - €29 million
    319. Júbilo Iwata - Association football - Japan - €29 million
    320. Rajasthan Royals - Cricket - India - €29 million
    321. Seattle Sounders FC - Association football - United States - €29 million
    322. Stade Toulousain - Rugby union - France - €29 million
    323. Texas A&M Aggies football - American football - United States - €29 million
    324. Al-Ahli - Association football - Saudi Arabia - €28 million
    325. Al-Ahly SC - Association football - Egypt - €28 million
    326. Al-Ain FC - Association football - United Arab Emirates - €28 million
    327. Brescia Calcio - Association football - Italy - €28 million
    328. CD Tenerife - Association football - Spain - €28 million
    329. Celta de Vigo - Association football - Spain - €28 million
    330. Lokomotiv Yaroslavl - Ice Hockey - Russia - €28 million
    331. PBC CSKA Moscow - Basketball - Russia - €28 million
    332. Real Madrid Baloncesto - Basketball - Spain - €28 million
    333. St. Kilda FC - Australian rules football - Australia - € 28 million
    334. Valenciennes FC - Association football - France - €28 million
    335. 1. FC Kaiserslautern - Association football - Germany - €27 million
    336. AS Livorno Calcio - Association football - Italy - €27 million
    337. EC Juventude - Association football - Brazil - €27 million
    338. Kolkata Knight Riders - Cricket - India - €27 million
    339. OGC Nice - Association football - France - €27 million
    340. RCD Mallorca - Association football - Spain - €27 million
    341. Real Murcia - Association football - Spain - €27 million
    342. Rosenborg BK - Association football - Norway - €27 million
    343. Saskatchewan Roughriders - Canadian football - Canada - €27 million
    344. Wisconsin Badgers football - American football - United States - €27 million
    345. Carlton FC - Australian rules football - Australia - €26 million
    346. Charlton Athletic FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €26 million
    347. Fremantle Dockers - Australian rules football - Australia - €26 million
    348. Grenoble Foot 38 - Association football - France - €26 million
    349. Mumbai Indians - Cricket - India - €26 million
    350. Sporting de Gijón - Association football - Spain - €26 million
    351. Al-Hilal FC - Association football - Saudi Arabia - €25 million
    352. Atlant Moscow Oblast - Ice Hockey - Russia - € 25 million
    353. CA Osasuna - Association football - Spain - €25 million
    354. CA River Plate - Association football - Argentina - €25 million
    355. FC Terek Grozny - Association football - Russia - €25 million
    356. KRC Genk - Association football - Belgium - €25 million
    357. Los Angeles Galaxy - Association football - United States - €25 million
    358. New York Red Bulls - Association football - United States - €25 million
    359. Brøndby IF - Association football - Denmark - €24 million
    360. CF Pachuca - Association football - Mexico - €24 million
    361. Cruz Azul - Association football - Mexico - €24 million
    362. Kashiwa Reysol - Association football - Japan - €24 million
    363. LG Twins - Baseball - South Korea - €24 million
    364. FC Luch-Energiya Vladivostok - Association football - Russia - €24 million
    365. Melbourne FC - Australian rules football - Australia - €24 million
    366. Port Adelaide FC - Australian rules football - Australia - €24 million
    367. Sydney Swans - Australian rules football - Australia - €24 million
    368. Western Bulldogs - Australian rules football - Australia - €24 million
    369. BC Lokomotiv-Kuban Krasnodar - Basketball - Russia - €23 million
    370. BC Triumph Lyubertsy - Basketball - Russia - €23 million
    371. Botafogo FR - Association football - Brazil - €23 million
    372. Bursaspor - Association football - Turkey - €23 million
    373. JEF United Ichihara Chiba - Association football - Japan - €23 million
    374. Richmond FC - Australian rules football - Australia - €23 million
    375. Sanfrecce Hiroshima - Association football - Japan - €23 million
    376. Sheffield United FC - Association football - United Kingdom - €23 million
    377. Surrey CCC - Cricket - United Kingdom - €23 million
    378. TSV 1860 München - Association football - Germany - €23 million
    379. Washington Huskies football - American football - United States - €23 million
    380. Alemannia Aachen - Association football - Germany - €22 million
    381. Al-Nassr FC - Association football - Saudi Arabia - €22 million
    382. Brisbane Lions - Australian rules football - Australia - €22 million
    383. Club Brugge KV - Association football - Belgium - €22 million
    384. Getafe CF - Association football - Spain - €22 million
    385. Kentucky Wildcats football - American football - United States - €22 million
    386. Málaga CF - Association football - Spain - €22 million
    387. Minnesota Golden Gophers football - American football - United States - €22 million
    388. Oklahoma State Cowboys football - American football - United States - €22 million
    389. Racing de Santander - Association football - Spain - €22 million
    390. Recreativo de Huelva - Association football - Spain - €22 million
    391. US Boulogne - Association football - France - €22 million
    392. Albirex Niigata - Association football - Japan - €21 million
    393. Ascoli Calcio 1898 - Association football - Italy - €21 million
    394. BC Khimki - Basketball - Russia - €21 million
    395. Clemson Tigers football - American football - United States - €21 million
    396. Delhi Daredevils - Cricket - India - €21 million
    397. Empoli FC - Association football - Italy - €21 million
    398. Ittihad FC - Association football - Saudi Arabia - €21 million
    399. Kyoto Sanga FC - Association football - Japan - €21 million
    400. Panathinaikos FC - Association football - Greece - €21 million
    401. UHC Dynamo - Ice Hockey - Russia - €21 million
    402. Virginia Tech Hokies football - American football - United States - €21 million
    403. Vissel Kobe - Association football - Japan - €21 million
    404. Xerez CD - Association football - Spain - €21 million
    405. Arizona State Sun Devils football - American football - United States - €20 million
    406. AS Bari - Association football - Italy - €20 million
    407. ASM Clermont Auvergne - Rugby union - France - €20 million
    408. Brisbane Broncos - Rugby league - Australia - €20 million
    409. Deccan Chargers - Cricket - India - €20 million
    410. FC St. Pauli - Association football - Germany - €20 million
    411. FC Treviso - Association football - Italy - €20 million
    412. GNK Dinamo Zagreb - Association football - Croatia - €20 million
    413. Hapoel Tel Aviv FC - Association football - Israel - €20 million
    414. Kaizer Chiefs FC - Association football - South Africa - €20 million
    415. Kings XI Punjab - Cricket - India - €20 million
    416. Leicester Tigers - Rugby union - United Kingdom - €20 million
    417. Levante UD - Association football - Spain - €20 million
    418. MSV Duisburg - Association football - Germany - €20 million
    419. Oregon Ducks football - American football - United States - €20 million
    420. Orlando Pirates FC - Association football - South Africa - €20 million
    421. Real Valladolid - Association football - Spain - €20 million
    422. SC Bern - Ice Hockey - Switzerland - €20 million
    423. USC Trojans football - American football - United States - €20 million

    Sportsmen with an annual income of at least €20 million

    1. Tiger Woods - Golf - United States - €52 million
    2. Kobe Bryant - Basketball - United States - €36 million
    3. LeBron James - Basketball - United States - €33 million
    4. Phil Mickelson - Golf - United States - €32 million
    5. Roger Federer - Tennis - Switzerland - €32 million
    6. David Beckham - Association football - United Kingdom - €27 million
    7. Cristiano Ronaldo - Association football - Portugal - €26 million
    8. Alex Rodriguez - Baseball - United States - €24 million
    9. Michael Schumacher - Formula One - Germany - €23 million
    10. Fernando Alonso - Formula One - Spain - €22 million
    11. Lionel Messi - Association football - Argentina - €22 million
    12. Rafael Nadal - Tennis - Spain - €21 million
    13. Tom Brady - American football - United States - €21 million
    14. Valentino Rossi - Motorcycle racing - Italy - €21 million
    15. Derek Jeter - Baseball - United States - €20 million
    16. Lewis Hamilton - Formula One - United Kingdom - €20 million
     
  6. undertaker123456

    undertaker123456 New Member

    Oct 26, 2011
    Club:
    AEK Athens
    In my opinion the best leagues of 2011:
    1)Primera division
    2)Premier league
    3)Serie A
    4)Budesliga
    Look, spanish league has Barca. That is why i think that is the best league in the world.Also, in this league plays Real that is one of the best teams in the world.English league has at least 3 teams that are every year in champions leuge.One of these teams is United which will become better than Barca soon.Serie A has not many teams which are every year in champions league but i think that it is going to have.German league has good teams but they can play good football only between each other.The proove is that borousia beat by olimpiakos.
     
  7. bebo

    bebo Red Card

    Nov 7, 2011
    1-Primera division
    2-Premier league
    3-Serie A
    4-Budesliga
     
  8. Dage

    Dage Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    SerieA is nearer to the 5th best league than the 3rd best. Period fan boys :)
     
  9. Lusankya

    Lusankya Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    That's true for the UEFA coefficient. However I would still love to see a German team winning a title. Not at all costs, though. Not with the help of some foreign sugar daddies.
     
  10. Kampfschwein

    Kampfschwein Member

    Jan 3, 2011
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    These discussions can be overly coloured by one's prejudices. So best to inject some metrics into the discussion in an effort to objectify matters.

    Let's see how transfermarkt.de estimates the player market values of various leagues:

    EUROPEAN TOP10

    Competition Clubs Players Total value ø MV
    Premier League 20 523 3.285.350.000 € 164.267.500 €
    Primera División 20 486 2.615.100.000 € 130.755.000 €
    Serie A 20 594 2.232.000.000 € 111.600.000 €
    1.Bundesliga 18 513 1.700.150.000 € 94.452.778 €
    Ligue 1 20 548 1.370.650.000 € 68.532.500 €
    Premier Liga 16 416 893.125.000 € 55.820.313 €
    Süper Lig 18 520 845.925.000 € 46.995.833 €
    SuperLiga 16 446 768.900.000 € 48.056.250 €
    Premier Liga 16 419 558.075.000 € 34.879.688 €
    Eredivisie 18 472 531.625.000 € 29.534.722 €
     
  11. Kampfschwein

    Kampfschwein Member

    Jan 3, 2011
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  12. Kampfschwein

    Kampfschwein Member

    Jan 3, 2011
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The last figure (average market value per club) strikes me as the most important indicator to consider.

    It correlates pretty well with sound assessments of the various leagues' strengths. Though I trust leagues with say a lower average player age (e.g the Bundesliga or iirc the Brasileiro) are somewhat undervalued on account of more younger players.

    I stress that international club competitions aren't a particularly good indicator of league strength. Why? Because leagues vary in how top-heavy they are. Top-heavy leagues are inherently better-placed in such competitions, albeit at the expense of how competitive their domestic competition is.

    When assessing how strong a league is, minnows like Getafe are just as important to consider as the Real Madrids.

    In light of these considerations, I think the Bundesliga's stronger than Serie A. I'd say that despite not being as top-heavy a league as Serie A, having bypassed Italy in co-efficient ratings puts this beyond any doubt.

    Is the Bundesliga stronger than the Primera Division? I don't know. Depends on one's vantage point, I suppose. Spanish clubs still spend more on players. But it's a vastly lopsided league - with half the clubs being effectively bankrupt to boot.
     
  13. Kampfschwein

    Kampfschwein Member

    Jan 3, 2011
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    How do American leagues compare to European ones?

    Looking at their market values, they (Brazil, Mexico, Argentina) are plainly good deal away from closing in on the BIG5. Russia and the like spend more.

    Now, the Brazilian league is moving up fast (and as said, these market values arguably underestimate the Brasileiro's strength to some extent), but it's still what in Europe would be a second-tier league (like Russia or Portugal).

    As for the US-American MLS, these estimates are quite sobering. Not only is it dwarfed by Mexico, Argentina and Brazil in its own hemisphere, but it's roughly on par with say Serbia's or Sweden's leagues. Though this is part of a sound business strategy. MLS admirably hasn't adopted the unsustainable loss-making you see in many countries.

    That's one reason why I like MLS a good deal. I admire the whole concept and do not understand Yanks who snub MLS in favour of European leagues. I sure would follow the Bundesliga even if the level of play were poor. Luckily it's not and our league can claim to be one of the most exciting around. :)
     
  14. DanFla

    DanFla Member

    Apr 18, 2010
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Market values is not a way to measure quality, is stupid, despite non-europeans markets have underestimate values...
     
  15. DanFla

    DanFla Member

    Apr 18, 2010
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Market values is not a way to measure quality, is stupid, despite non-europeans markets have underestimate values...
     
  16. Kampfschwein

    Kampfschwein Member

    Jan 3, 2011
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Why do you dismiss such data? Since that's a pretty idiosyncratic view, you should offer an explanation as to why you hold that belief.

    And then, what other data do you judge superior?

    Or do you just go with your hunches and prejudices without troubling yourself with tangible data?
     
  17. iffstarz

    iffstarz New Member

    Feb 26, 2012
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The Most Prolific Marksman of the Modern Era

    This probably deserves its own tread but as a n00bie I haven't participated in this forum enough for this privilege. My apologies in advance and hello all!

    With Messi and Ronaldo knocking them in for fun, I wanted to do a statistical analysis on how these strikers compare with strikers of yesteryear (by yesteryear I really only mean from around 1991 onwards where I could obtain data).

    The easiest measure of how prolific a striker is their goals-to-games ratio. (a more accurate measure is goals per minutes but getting data for that would be literally be a 'statistical nightmare'). But with strikers plying their trades in different leagues - some leagues being easier to score than others, it begs the question, how would we compare across leagues?

    Well the IFFHS (basically official body of football stats) have since 91, ranked each country's domestic league against each other depending on how each said country performs in their continental competitions (i.e. UEFA Champs League, Copa Libertadores etc.). Don't ask me how they weight leagues across different continents but somehow they arrive at a magic number.

    Anyhoo, I used this info to standardise the analysis. For example, say the best league of season x is the EPL with 2000 points according to IFFHS, this will be given a standardisation coefficient of 1. Say the second best is La Liga with 1913 points then the standardisation coefficient is calculated to be 1913/2000. This coefficient is then multiplied by the goals/games ratio to give us a standardised result to compare performances across leagues (this done for each season of the player's career).

    Enough of the fluff, here are the results (til the end of 2010/11 season):

    *RAW DATA*

    Player Goals Games Goals/Games
    1. Ronaldo 352 518 0.68
    2. L.Messi 180 269 0.669
    3. R. Van Nistelrooy 342 555 0.616
    4. D. Villa 193 356 0.542
    5. S. Eto'o 251 470 0.534
    6. L. Toni 167 328 0.509
    7. C. Ronaldo 209 412 0.507
    8. D. Drogba 200 411 0.487
    9. T. Henry 319 681 0.468
    10. Raul Gonzalez 342 792 0.432


    *STANDARDISED DATA*

    Player Weighted Goals Games Weighted Goals/Games
    1. L.Messi 164.995 269 0.613
    2. Ronaldo 290.844 518 0.561
    3. R. Van Nistelrooy 282.324 555 0.509
    4. C. Ronaldo 204.593 412 0.497
    5. D. Villa 175.845 356 0.494
    6. S. Eto'o 228.456 470 0.486
    7. D. Drogba 178.647 411 0.435
    8. L. Toni 140.779 328 0.429
    9. T. Henry 288.634 681 0.424
    10. Raul Gonzalez 282.324 792 0.397


    Interesting to see Messi come out on top with Ronaldo starting and ending career in Brazil causing his standardised ratio to drop. Cristiano Ronaldo benefits hugely from standardisation as he played in the EPL when it was considered to be best, then switched over to La Liga when it was the best.
    I expect both to be in more dominant positions at the end of the 11/12 season. Amazing considering neither are out and out strikers.

    Would love to hear your thoughts and any strikers you want rated
     

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