2011 Gold Cup [with Gold Cup qualifying Rs]

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by fire428, Jun 28, 2010.

  1. fire428

    fire428 Member

    May 9, 2008
    Elmhurst
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When do we find out the groups, and is the field already set?
     
  2. brandonplaysguitar

    brandonplaysguitar New Member

    Apr 4, 2009
    Minneapolis, USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    Nobody knows and no
     
  3. fire428

    fire428 Member

    May 9, 2008
    Elmhurst
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    Does anyone have any info?
     
  4. brandonplaysguitar

    brandonplaysguitar New Member

    Apr 4, 2009
    Minneapolis, USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. fire428

    fire428 Member

    May 9, 2008
    Elmhurst
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    I did do a search on that and I went to the wikipedia page and it had nothing on it. But thanks smart guy.
     
  6. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    I do not think that Jack even know where he wants to play the gold cup, I hear Canada may be interested, then again it may just be BS.
     
  7. Gutch220

    Gutch220 Member

    Apr 26, 2010
    NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    you would think they would have a host and a general idea of what the set-up will look like. The fact that a host country hasn't been chosen means it will likely be the USA again since no infrastructure refurbishing is needed. And we have a ton of venues.
     
  8. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    Jack did run for some type of office in T&T this summer, maybe he promised that he would hold the gold cup in Trinidad. :eek:
     
  9. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    It'll be the same as 2007 & 2009 - U.S. hosts, three 4-team groups, Mexico will play in Houston, Chicago and LA, the U.S. in NY, Philly, maybe Seattle, Caribbean teams will play in Miami/Tampa, etc. . Pretty predictable stuff.
     
  10. TheLostUniversity

    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Feb 4, 2007
    Greater Boston
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    I think it would be good for us to face a Gold Cup hosted in Mexico. Make the adversity faced closer to what we have to prepare for in WC qualifying.
     
  11. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    It would be nice to beat Mexico in Mexico, but we've won the last two Hexagonals without doing that. We got 7 points in our 5 Hexagonal away games in qualifying for World Cup 2010 (losses at Mexico and Costa Rica, draw at El Salvador, and wins at Honduras and Trinidad and Tobago). We had the same record of 2 wins, 1 draw, and 2 losses in our Hexagonal away games in qualifying for World Cup 2006.
     
  12. Cade

    Cade Member

    Jul 7, 2008
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    I would be okay with Mexico hosting the 2013 Gold Cup... :) hopefully 2011 will be here, and I think it will be after seeing the interest this WC has brought. I'm sure USSF has extra incentive to wanna get some meaningful games out across the U.S. for new fans to experience.
     
  13. FC Matt 90

    FC Matt 90 New Member

    Aug 1, 2006
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    Assuming the format from '07 & '09 remains, the field will be as follows:

    USA, Mexico, Canada all qualify automatically

    5 Central American teams: the top 5 finishers in the 2011 (January, I believe) UNCAF Nations Cup to be held in Panama.

    4 Caribbean teams: The top four finishers from the 2010 Caribbean Cup (finals held in Martinique in November


    I expect that the tournament would be held in the US again, that's where the $$$ is at, but Canada or Mexico have the facilities needed to host.
     
  14. troutseth

    troutseth Member+

    Feb 1, 2006
    Houston, TX
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    With the support that Canadians are giving MLS squads, plus the ease at which TV can broadcast from there (see no language barrier), it would not shock me to see them host one of the next two.
     
  15. FC Matt 90

    FC Matt 90 New Member

    Aug 1, 2006
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    And they did a good job hosting the U-20 World Cup a couple of years ago too.
     
  16. Ivyleaguer

    Ivyleaguer Member

    Sep 6, 2009
    New York City
    Club:
    --other--
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    I would rather have the MNT take part in Copa America next year. Ceteris paribus, we should be asking for a quasi-permanent slot in that competition. To face high-quality squads on the pitch regularly is the key to playing better over the long haul. Both Brazil and Argentina are as good as they come.
     
  17. dcsundevil2002

    Apr 20, 2006
    Ashburn, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    Not this shit again?

    The USMNT has to take part in the 2011 CONCACAF Gold Cup, the winner gets into the 2013 FIFA Confederations Cup.

    The Gold Cup to skip would be the 2013 Gold Cup.

    I agree with you, the Copa America is a better tournament to play in, with a First choice team.

    However, as we have to play in the Gold Cup as it is the regional championships of the region we are members of.

    Further more, as the uSSF is not a member of CONMEBOL, we need to be invited to any Copa America tournament we desire to play in. After we sent a C squad down to the 2007 tournament, CONMEBOL doesn't seem too interested in having us come back down again.

    On top of that, the USSF cannot get European clubs to release the players that would make up the A Squad, as FIFA only mandates that clubs release players for their federations regional tournament, which the Copa America is not, thus the USSF won't even approach the clubs for their release.

    I wish we would play in every Copa America, but until it is moved or the Gold Cup that gets us access to the Confederations Cup is moved to seperate years, then we will be stuck playing in the Gold Cup only. As we most likely will not be playing in teh Copa America any time soon. it is that much more important that we win teh Gold Cup that gets us the Confederations Cup berth, thus giving us another tournament that has quality opponents.
     
  18. Otergod

    Otergod Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
    indianapolis
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    ive been making this argument since 2007. USSF hands are tied when it comes to picking the roster for Copa. As you've put it, since we are guests, Clubs are not required to release their players. While we certainly could ask, most clubs where our players play will not release them if they are vital to the team. Howard, Dempsey and Bradley (just to name a few) will not be released. We could field a team of euros' but they most likely wont be our starters...

    its a losing battle trying to explain this. If you happen to make someone understand, there are a million others who dont get it
     
  19. JediMindTricks

    Jun 20, 2006
    Houston
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    that's what i'm thinking.

    *beat dead horse*
     
  20. troutseth

    troutseth Member+

    Feb 1, 2006
    Houston, TX
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    I had forgotten about that; good point.
     
  21. JYDA

    JYDA Member

    Sep 10, 2003
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    I don't think Canada would get the whole Gold Cup but I won't be surprised if there's at least some group games played there. The Gold Cup is a SUM property and SUM has just opened a Canadian office. Plus, Jamaica and Trinidad are big draws in Toronto with Haiti being a big draw in Montreal. Maybe a group with those 3 teams plus Canada playing games in Toronto, Montreal, and Miami.

    One thing's for sure, the core of the tournament will stay in the US. The sponsors are all american companies who are only shelling out big money to get to hispanics in the US. The sponsors would bail if the tourney left the states.
     
  22. JediMindTricks

    Jun 20, 2006
    Houston
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    i want it to be in the US again. but i know that any games in houston will involve mexico and not the US. boo.
     
  23. ATLfirefan

    ATLfirefan Member

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 8, 2005
    Norcross, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    Canada could host, depending on how many venues you want and the size.

    Vancouver, Edmonton, Toronto, and Montreal could all be host cities, with 3 of them having smaller venues for group games?

    VAN- BC Place (59 000), Swanguard Stadium (10 000 but expandable)
    Edmonton- Commonwealth Stadium (60 000)
    Toronto- Rogers Centre (53 000), BMO Field (21 000)
    Montreal- Olympic Stadium (65 000), Stade Saputo (12 500)

    Have the three groups rotate in venues
    QF- VAN and TOR
    SF- EDM
    Final- Montreal
     
  24. troutseth

    troutseth Member+

    Feb 1, 2006
    Houston, TX
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    I doubt they would bail. All they care about is TV advertising dollars - In stadium revenue is peanuts compared to that. They just need prime TV coverage to be happy.
     
  25. FC Matt 90

    FC Matt 90 New Member

    Aug 1, 2006
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2011 Gold Cup

    Vancouver will also have that temp stadium that's being built while BC Place is upgraded. ~27,500 seats if IIRC. Though who knows if that'd still be around in 2013
     

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