2011/2012 Hiroshi Ibusuki @ Sevilla FC B/Sevilla Atlético (ESP) Thread [R]

Discussion in 'Japanese Abroad' started by sc-f, Dec 19, 2011.

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  1. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Okey good. Do you know when the squad will be announced?
     
  2. sc-f

    sc-f Member+

    May 23, 2009
    Club:
    SC Freiburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    On the 18th.
     
  3. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Thanks
     
  4. KATO

    KATO Member

    Nov 26, 2011
    Brisbane
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Kanoute is out of contract and probly heading to Asia, this might open up a space for Ibusuki in the first team squad.
     
  5. SamuraiBlue2002

    SamuraiBlue2002 Member+

    Dec 20, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I was reading a Sevilla fan forum and the general consensus was that he's not in the plans for the first team.
     
  6. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I guess he still is a "japanese player" in La Liga, afterall. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Rome, Italy
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Loan in Segunda or even in Primera would be great.
     
  8. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    20 goals forward is a good business card, now we'll see what he will do in Olympic Games.

    I think if he will BEAT the a** of the Spain NT U-23 (they are in the same group), Sevilla will recognize it... :cool:
     
  9. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    If he goes to the Olympics ...
     
  10. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    What dya meant???

    Hiroshi is just in Toulon Tournament's list, that's obviously he will play the Olympics...
     
  11. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    Not really, the coach is still testing players.
     
  12. sc-f

    sc-f Member+

    May 23, 2009
    Club:
    SC Freiburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    A good way to see the difference.

    Toulon selection: Usami is in.
    Olympic selection: Kiyo is in.
     
  13. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    Well I really hope both them will be in the Olympics. And I hope Miyaichi will be there too. More stronger players, more possibility to take a medal.
     
  14. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Guys the problem with La Liga is that they only can have 3 non EU players (home players) which results in a lot less chance for Ibusuki and the like. For instance
     
  15. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    It doesn't mean anything. Serie A has 2 slots for non EU players only, instead some clubs choose to not use them on random brazilians and we have 2 japanese players.
     
  16. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    And in Germany there will probably be 10 starting next season and in Netherlands there are 4


    Its not a coincidence, well later on its also the experience clubs have with the players. Plus Spain is totally different mentality and culture, harder to get used to than Germany. For instance in Dortmund live the most Japanese people in Europe.
     
  17. karolb

    karolb Member

    Apr 16, 2008
    Germany
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    its Düsseldorf and not the most in Europe, there are more in London/Great Britain
     
  18. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    You didn't understand my post probably but I was saying what you said now: it's more about the mentality. It's true that there are leagues where it's easier to get non-eu players, like the Bundesliga above all.
    But we still have 2 japanese players (it was 3 with Abe) even in England, with all his harsh rules, and 2 in Serie A. So, having a 3 players slot actually puts la Liga in a more favourable position. And we have only 1 player in La Ligue despite I think a 4-slots rule. So the reality is that japanese players still are not enough recognized outside the Bundesliga, unfortunately (don't think there's even any restriction in Eredivisie, we could've had as many as the Bundesliga). But I'm very optimistic on this.
     
  19. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Well if we look at England.

    1. England in Japan is saw as some holly grail of football. The best league and if we look at how players got there

    1. Miyaichi - Arsenal (Wenger was in charge of Nagoya, he is also investor in talent so one in there isnt such a shock)

    2. Tadanari Lee (he went to Championship but they qualified for EPL next year

    3. Kagawa atm is world class player so he could be from Congo for all clubs care. It is true that however if he makes it, that they will look more kindly towards Japanese players. But its simply for instance. If you just have 3 places for foreigners you are more reluctant to just give X player a try. If there are basically no limitations like in Germany you are far less restricted and so I think it is not strange that Eredivise and Bundesliga are like the jump point for Japanese players. Naturally after the initial bonuses the talent and true capabilities of Japanese players kicked in.


    Well doesnt really matter. This year Olympics and than WC in 2012. If Japan does well on these two the trend will continue and Japan will have more and more players in Europe :)
     
  20. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Indeed I just checked its 3rd in Europe (Dusseldorf) you learn something new every day. Thank you for correcting me
     
  21. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    It's not like that. There are three big leagues from Japanese perspective: PL, Serie and Liga with BuLi catching up with popularity recently. It also somewhat depends on the age of asked person I think.
     
  22. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    You meant WC in 2014 :p
    And don't forget the Confederation Cup in 2013!
    Uh, I recognize now that the only "weak" team I believed it would be in the competition, Zambia, will be not cuz the winner of Africa Cup of Nations 2013 will be there (probably Ivory Coast?)... More tought for Samurai Blue! :cautious:
     
  23. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    The weaker team will actually be New Zealand.
     
  24. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    2014 yeah. I should double check my posts, but I just write make bunch of typos and stuff meh...
     
  25. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    It depends. They did a very good WC in 2010. However on paper it's true.
     
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