2010 WC Bids....

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by jlmatthews, Jun 3, 2003.

  1. jlmatthews

    jlmatthews New Member

    May 18, 2003
    Toledo
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This from Sky Sports

    http://msn.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,1860-1092879,00.html
    Just wondering what you thought. FIFA has wanted an African WC. I'd say South Africa is the one that is going to get it.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. jlmatthews

    jlmatthews New Member

    May 18, 2003
    Toledo
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On my other board someone has just posted this...

     
  3. Green Tabasco

    Green Tabasco New Member

    May 3, 2003
    South Africa's got it. Although personally I would like to see it held in Morocco. Morocco is practically in europe. It would make it easier for everyone, because of the distances if it were held there. And besides, Morocco is kind of exotic. That would give the WC more "flavor" than South Afica.
     
  4. Germanshepherd

    Germanshepherd New Member

    May 19, 2003
    Rostock, Deutschland
    I really don`t think the "US likings" play any role in the minds of Fifa where the World Cup will be.

    My favourites are Egypt, Morooco and South-Africa.

    Anyway, I think its a fantastic idea to hold a World Cup in Africa.

    Lets hope they get it done.
     
  5. MIGkiller

    MIGkiller Member+

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    May 9, 2003
    Rio de Janeiro
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    South Africa, that is a given.

    It's the only stable african country that can provide the infrastructure and security needed to host such tournament.
     
  6. jlmatthews

    jlmatthews New Member

    May 18, 2003
    Toledo
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't either. I was just getting the ball rolling w/ a statement I had seen...
     
  7. MetroAndAGuinessPlz

    MetroAndAGuinessPlz New Member

    Apr 1, 2003
    NY
    South Africa does not "got it". While it is the only African country that could host it RIGHT NOW by 2010 AIDS will have taken a very severe toll on the infrastructure of that country. My feeling is that South Africa will be selected initially but as time goes on a non-African nation will have to be found(and yes there is only one that could do it in such a short period of time). I think Africa deserves a shot at hosting but I am afraid it will be impossible.
     
  8. Germanshepherd

    Germanshepherd New Member

    May 19, 2003
    Rostock, Deutschland
    Do I understand you correct, that you think that the US will get the 2010 World Cup?

    The Fifa will not select South Africa and 2 years later Aids will be such a big problem that South Africa couldn`t handle it anymore.

    Fifa will put all aspects of the bidding naions into account!

    And if they won`t choose South Africa they still could choose Egypt for example.
     
  9. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you do understand him correctly, and it's not that far-fetched of a scenario...

    If 2010 stays in Africa, then I'd have to believe the US is a very, very strong candidate to get 2014 as a quid pro quo for MLS/SUM/AEG bailing FIFA out on the Women's World Cup...
     
  10. Germanshepherd

    Germanshepherd New Member

    May 19, 2003
    Rostock, Deutschland
    It is far fetched.

    2014 is already decided to be in South-America.

    And South-America has decided to host "his" World-Cup in Brazil.

    So the 2010 will be in Africa, the 2014 in Brazil.

    And 2018 its going back to Europe, I guess.
     
  11. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ...and the 2003 Women's World Cup was supposed to be in China...

    Nothing with FIFA is ever written in stone - I mean, here we are less than 9 months before qualifying for Germany is to start and FIFA apparently still can't make up it's mind on how many teams are going to qualify...

    ...and if FIFA finds itself in a jam in 2008 because South Africa (as an example) suddenly turns out to be an unviable host, they're hardly going to move the World Cup to Egypt...

    Ah, the US...FIFA's economic safety valve...:)

    Seriously...they'd move it here...the dollar signs flashing before their eyes would be too much to resist...

    Bottom line...I wouldn't want to bet my mortgage on adherance to any schedule that FIFA was involved with...
     
  12. scd84

    scd84 Member

    Jan 1, 2003
    Columbus
    I'm not sure you understand how this rotation thing works. It means that Europe does not get every other WC as in the past. 2018 will be in North America or Oceania if they hold to the rotation system. That said, it remains to be seen if UEFA can stomach all this equality among confederations. To be fair they are clearly not equal in quality but FIFA is making an effort to share the WC wealth and UEFA may not be able to take that.
     
  13. Auxodium

    Auxodium New Member

    Apr 11, 2003
    Perth, Australia
    In 2018 the world cup will go to OCEANIA who will be the only confederation not to host the world event. Obviously the ONLY suitable candidate would be Australia because of the facilities, security, health and financial securities. This is if it is only one nation hosting. If 2 nations host then New Zealand would also host a lot of games as they are only a reasonable "paddle" away from Australia.

    2018 will go to OCEANIA not EUROPE
     
  14. Germanshepherd

    Germanshepherd New Member

    May 19, 2003
    Rostock, Deutschland
    Do you know how many countries are here in Europe?

    If you rotate it from continent to continent then when should Spain, England, Italy, Russia get a World Cup?

    In hundred years?

    No, Europe has to have an outstanding role in this rotating system.
     
  15. futbol2ot

    futbol2ot Member

    May 15, 2001
    Massachusetts
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you know how many countries are in the rest of the world?
     
  16. Germanshepherd

    Germanshepherd New Member

    May 19, 2003
    Rostock, Deutschland
    You don`t get the point.

    Think about the rotating system and about countries per continent. (countries/continent)
     
  17. futbol2ot

    futbol2ot Member

    May 15, 2001
    Massachusetts
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Europe doesn't have that many more countries.

    UEFA has 52 members. The CAF also has 52 members! So by your logic, Africa should host the WC as often as Europe does.

    I'm thinking "about the rotating system and about countries per continent."

    Maybe I just still don't get your point.
     
  18. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    The rotation system won't work anyway. European nations will complain if they don't get a better position than others, and other nations will complain if Europe gets this better position. In some years they'll agree on a World Cup every two years to satisfy the interests of the nations.

    And 2010... nobody will have to wonder if the WC is given to Africa but never played there. The idea is nice on the paper, but realisation is something entirely different.
     
  19. Germanshepherd

    Germanshepherd New Member

    May 19, 2003
    Rostock, Deutschland
    No, you get it.

    Look at the number of nations which are able to host World Cup.

    Europe stands out by far.

    If someday the African countries would all be able to host a World Cup they should get the same chances.

    Of course.

    In America: US, Brazil, Mexico, Argentina.
    In Asia: Korea, Japan, China.
    In Africa: Egypt, South-Africa, Nigeria
    In Oceania: Australia

    In Europe: England, Spain, France, Germany, Italy, Russia, Netherlands-Belgium, Scandinavia, Turkey...

    You see?
     
  20. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The women's world cup could have gone anywhere, it's just that the US is one of the few places in the world where people would bother to cross the road to watch a women's match.

    What I always find curious about posters calling for the world cup to go to the US rather than europe or south america is that by doing so it somehow equates to "the rest of the world" being given a chance to host, when clearly all posters appear to want (with their dismissing of African, Asian & Oceanic bids) is the cup to rotate between South America, Europe and the United States. Mexico can clearly host, and given the chance Canada probably could too, yet if North American world cups were to rotate amongst those three and FIFA's rotation system was in place, then the US would only host every 72 years. Still think it's a reasonable system? Or don't the same rules apply to the US, because a US world cup would make money (and the one in Germany won't? :rolleyes: ). Perhaps you can appreciate why European countries, who under strict rotation in the same vein, would only host once every 150 years or so, are less than thrilled by it.
     
  21. BakedAlaskan

    BakedAlaskan Member+

    Feb 28, 2002
    Ancho-RAGE,Alaska
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I personally think that it should go to Europe every three times,South America every 4 or 5 times depending if they clash with Europes rotation,and with everyone one else sprinkled in between.

    2006 Europe
    2010 Africa
    2014 South America
    2018 Europe
    2022 North America(Mexico,USA)
    2026 Oceania
    2030 Europe
    2034 South America
    2038 Asia
    ----------------Repeat entire process
    2042 Europe
    2046 Africa
    2050 South America
    2054 Europe
    2058 North America
    2062 Oceania
    2066 Europe
    2070 South America
    2074 Asia

    I hate to make sense at a time like this.
     
  22. AvidSinger

    AvidSinger New Member

    Sep 6, 2002
    Massachusetts
    I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the WC returned to the USA fairly soon. After all, the 1994 WC crushed all previous attendance records, and FIFA knows as well as anybody else that money talks. A country that can fill a dozen 60,000+ seat stadiums for a tournament is going to get lots of attention.
     
  23. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    If South Africa isn't good enough, no one on the content is good enough. THey're the only country that have a rats chance in heck of scrounging up all the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ that it's going to take to host the event.
     
  24. KCWiz

    KCWiz New Member

    May 8, 2003
    Manhattan, Kansas
    In 2010, how about a joint host in Morocco and Spain. Wouldn't that make Africa and Europe both shut up?
     
  25. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The US world cup was the first that went for the block booking approach that got a lot of people to stump up cash for tickets before they knew what games were being played. Prior to that all group matches were played in two venues per group, with the lesser venue getting the less attractive games and subsequently lower crowds. Both world cups since have used the 1994 ticketing approach with similar results. Germany will sell-out also. Ticket sales are not FIFA's main concern however, TV revenue is. A world cup in Europe (or a similar time zone, such as Africa) will be worth more in TV cash and sponsorship. With the poor US TV figures for soccer, even the world cup, the US in terms of TV and sponsorship money is probably a smaller concern than Denmark, which is possibly one reason why the world cup in France in 1998, despite much higher expenditure, actually made a larger profit than the world cup in the US did.
     

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