2010 USSF Div. 2 and USL-2 Attendance Thread

Discussion in 'United Soccer Leagues' started by The Marquis, Apr 13, 2010.

  1. CCSUltra

    CCSUltra Member+

    Nov 18, 2008
    Cleveland
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, you can say put it on the local sports channels all you want, but if they channels don't want to cover the team and don't care about the team, that ain't much you can do.

    @Violet, Palace UK did have problems, but CPB is a separate entity. They aren't too reliant on the parent team.
     
  2. Mikey mouse

    Mikey mouse Member

    Jul 27, 1999
    Charleston, SC
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Promote Charleston!;)

    This week's USSF D2:

    Puerto Rico 2,498
    Portland 5,893
    Vancouver 4,815
    Baltimore 1,071
    Minnesota 2,310
    Montreal 13,034
    Austin 2918 -- I think. I could be off by one or two. I'm going by memory. The number isn't up anywhere yet.
     
  4. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    A total of 32,539 for 7 games which means an average of 4648
     
  5. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't expect anything shit worthy in Portland on Thursday. Once again the Blazers will be playing at home, game 6. This city SHITS about the Blazers, so, yeah, 6k will be likely.
     
  6. Mikey mouse

    Mikey mouse Member

    Jul 27, 1999
    Charleston, SC
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Honestly I was a bit surprised. I know it was the home opener but there was alot going on locally this weekend (large music fest, Baseball at same time,) and we had a big storm come through around 5.

    I acually think our attendence average might go up this year. We only have home matches on Saturday and Friday's this season so that is a bonus (no regular season mid week matches)
     
  7. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, I don't think I am going to be doing it this year. I just got a promotion, which means MUCH more work for me. So I don't have a chance with lull's in the work day, and I don't have excel at home. If nobody takes it on, soccercityusa.com will be tracking it in a very similar way (better actually), though Alli is typically a couple weeks behind (busy ya know, working and such).
     
  8. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Congratulations on the promotion!

    Bastard.

    ;)
     
  9. Mikey mouse

    Mikey mouse Member

    Jul 27, 1999
    Charleston, SC
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I can definatley do the the USL-2 teams (hell there are only like 3 games a week

    And l'll keep the USSF D2 teams updated as best i can as well, even though there is a similar thread over in the NASL forum.

    I recently retired from the military so I have some time on my hands.....
     
  10. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's bitter sweet. More money, worse job, no choice. lol. bizarre I know.
     
  11. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK. Here we go. I can't let this disappear.

    Regarding the USSF D2, I'm just putting US Division 2. No reason to go putting the whole mess (USSF D2/USL1/A-League) every time. Especially since who knows what we'll have next year.

    Regarding USL2, Real Maryland, once again, failed to report their first attendance. But at this point, they're being very consistent about that, so the stats can actually be compared year-to-year.

    US Division 2

    Code:
    % of season completed				
    8.9%				
    Year	Average	Median	%<2K	%>10k
    2002	2589	1523	59.1%	4.5%
    2003	2639	1469	60.9%	4.3%
    2004	3957	3429	25.0%	0.0%
    2005	3941	4257	20.0%	0.0%
    2006	4338	4555	0.0%	0.0%
    2007	4529	4774	13.3%	0.0%
    2008	4788	4260	0.0%	7.1%
    2009	3498	3753	21.4%	0.0%
    2010	4262	2570	31.3%	12.5%
    
    Code:
    Final Numbers
    Year	Average	Median	%<2K	%>10k
    2002	3037	2185	40.1%	3.6%
    2003	3335	2463	42.9%	4.1%
    2004	3878	3107	30.9%	4.5%
    2005	4527	3554	19.6%	7.7%
    2006	4666	3370	18.5%	10.7%
    2007	4771	4274	19.6%	10.1%
    2008	5164	4510	10.9%	12.1%
    2009	4709	3662	21.2%	13.3%
    
    USL2/D3 Pro League

    Code:
    % of season completed				
    8.3%				
    Year	Average	Median	%<1K	%>3k
    2005	1788	1470	14.3%	14.3%
    2006	2028	1523	0.0%	28.6%	
    2007	2351	2119	12.5%	25.0%
    2008	1875	1822	12.5%	25.0%
    2009	1929	2105	0.0%	0.0%
    2010	2052	1433	20.0%	20.0%
    
    Code:
    Final Numbers
    Year	Average	Median	%<1K	%>3k
    2005	1680	1457	21.4%	11.9%
    2006	1803	1703	14.1%	11.8%
    2007	1575	1423	28.1%	6.3%
    2008	1614	1629	26.0%	7.3%
    2009	1602	1518	31.8%	7.1%
    
    Hopefully I've done everything right, as I did a lot of adjustments to my spreadsheet to make the process a little easier.

    As with MLS, it's hard to really tell much this early. All that's clear is that Portland and Montreal have started their seasons earlier than last year. And the Median and <2K is the worst we've seen since 2003.

    That's nothing, though. Wait until next year when Vancouver and Portland are gone. This is just a preview of what we'll see next year, no matter what league(s) we end up with.
     
  12. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hear ya, actually. I got moved to a new job 6 months ago -- no more money, a wash on better/worse job, and no choice. At least I should still have time to do this. I do enjoy it. Thanks for giving it a try!
     
  13. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    US Division 2

    Code:
    % of season completed
    12.8%
    Year	Average	Median	%<2K	%>10k
    2002	2474	1438	59.4%	3.1%
    2003	2466	1452	58.8%	2.9%
    2004	3784	3302	20.7%	0.0%
    2005	3796	2975	23.8%	4.8%
    2006	4134	4265	0.0%	0.0%
    2007	4244	4215	19.0%	0.0%
    2008	4487	4215	9.5%	4.8%
    2009	3652	3427	23.8%	0.0%
    2010	4284	2642	34.8%	13.0%
    
    Code:
    Final Numbers
    Year	Average	Median	%<2K	%>10k
    2002	3037	2185	40.1%	3.6%
    2003	3335	2463	42.9%	4.1%
    2004	3878	3107	30.9%	4.5%
    2005	4527	3554	19.6%	7.7%
    2006	4666	3370	18.5%	10.7%
    2007	4771	4274	19.6%	10.1%
    2008	5164	4510	10.9%	12.1%
    2009	4709	3662	21.2%	13.3%
    
    USL2/D3 Pro League

    Code:
    % of season completed
    11.7%
    Year	Average	Median	%<1K	%>3k
    2005	1730	1756	20.0%	10.0%
    2006	2004	1624	10.0%	30.0%
    2007	1937	1666	27.3%	18.2%
    2008	2039	1843	18.2%	36.4%
    2009	1851	1842	10.0%	0.0%
    2010	1989	1433	28.6%	28.6%
    
    Code:
    Final Numbers
    Year	Average	Median	%<1K	%>3k
    2005	1680	1457	21.4%	11.9%
    2006	1803	1703	14.1%	11.8%
    2007	1575	1423	28.1%	6.3%
    2008	1614	1629	26.0%	7.3%
    2009	1602	1518	31.8%	7.1%
    
    Well, at least now the D2 is better than 2004, except for that %<2K. It will be interesting to see how Tampa does this weekend. This will be a good weekend, with home games for Montreal, Vancouver, Rochester, Tampa and ...Miami.

    As to the USL2, I really don't know what to think. The USL website is all messed up and I had to hunt the team websites to get one of the numbers. The Monarchs continue to be a joke, and I really don't see how, with teams like that involved, the USL can present the USL2 as professional.

    It's probably too early, but I'm starting to get concerned that this little spat we had this past winter will kill professional minor league soccer for a little while.
     
  14. Mikey mouse

    Mikey mouse Member

    Jul 27, 1999
    Charleston, SC
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you check the schedule page on the USL page and then clicking the score? thats the way I check the attendence, (with the exception of RMM, those numbers usually come from a guess by someone who was at the match)

    Wilmington over the years had pretty good numbers. With them gone. Im sure you'll see a drop.

    Pittsburg took a hit this weekend with the weather and everything else up that way and still had better numbers than Minnesota (I hope they improve there)

    I think things will work out but it might be uncomfortable for a few teams and us fans for a year or two
     
  15. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep. That's the way I did it all last year. Here's the page I get for the Richmond at Maryland game, and a similar one for the Richmond at Pittsburgh game.

    Just to be sure it's not something personal to me, here's what I see:

     
  16. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kenn is a better sleuth than me. The USL2 attendance figures are now complete through last weekend. No thanks to Real Maryland.

    US Division 2

    Code:
    % of season completed
    12.8%
    Year	Average	Median	%<2K	%>10k
    2002	2474	1438	59.4%	3.1%
    2003	2466	1452	58.8%	2.9%
    2004	3784	3302	20.7%	0.0%
    2005	3796	2975	23.8%	4.8%
    2006	4134	4265	0.0%	0.0%
    2007	4244	4215	19.0%	0.0%
    2008	4487	4215	9.5%	4.8%
    2009	3652	3427	23.8%	0.0%
    2010	4284	2642	34.8%	13.0%
    
    Code:
    Final Numbers
    Year	Average	Median	%<2K	%>10k
    2002	3037	2185	40.1%	3.6%
    2003	3335	2463	42.9%	4.1%
    2004	3878	3107	30.9%	4.5%
    2005	4527	3554	19.6%	7.7%
    2006	4666	3370	18.5%	10.7%
    2007	4771	4274	19.6%	10.1%
    2008	5164	4510	10.9%	12.1%
    2009	4709	3662	21.2%	13.3%
    
    USL2/D3 Pro League

    Code:
    % of season completed
    16.7%
    Year	Average	Median	%<1K	%>3k
    2005	1476	1422	26.7%	6.7%
    2006	1906	1523	13.3%	20.0%
    2007	1745	1632	31.3%	12.5%
    2008	1766	1577	25.0%	25.0%
    2009	1687	1455	6.7%	0.0%
    2010	1628	1190	40.0%	20.0%
    
    Code:
    Final Numbers
    Year	Average	Median	%<1K	%>3k
    2005	1680	1457	21.4%	11.9%
    2006	1803	1703	14.1%	11.8%
    2007	1575	1423	28.1%	6.3%
    2008	1614	1629	26.0%	7.3%
    2009	1602	1518	31.8%	7.1%
    
     
  17. Mikey mouse

    Mikey mouse Member

    Jul 27, 1999
    Charleston, SC
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    getting the same error message. Ill send them an email, they have been pretty good about anwsering my questions about the archive of Charleston USLlive matches.
     
  18. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is it just me, or is the USL-2 attendance nosediving this year?
     
  19. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's actually way too early to tell. Half the teams have only played one game, and none of those are that far outside the range they had last year. Maryland is actually above their final average. Charleston is right around last year's average.

    But, really, with only Maryland having played more than two games, I think it's far too early to say. All it takes is one weekend of bad weather to make things look awful.

    But losing Wilmington didn't help the overall numbers.
     
  20. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wilmington will be counteracted by Charleston. Richmond always draws well. I think they should do well this year. Charleston being the key. The LONE key.
     
  21. Maza1987

    Maza1987 Member

    Mar 6, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
  22. Mikey mouse

    Mikey mouse Member

    Jul 27, 1999
    Charleston, SC
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    this ast weekend USL2 attendence

    Richmond 1982
    Charlotte 667
    Charleston 3221
     
  23. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    According to the new, improved USL2 website, the numbers were:

    Richmond 1986
    Charlotte 677
    Charleston 3226

    So that's what I'm using. Not that it's that much of a difference. But figured I should be transparent in what I do:)

    US Division 2

    Code:
    % of season completed
    15.6%
    Year	Average	Median	%<2K	%>10k
    2002	2463	1594	56.4%	2.6%
    2003	2751	1478	56.1%	4.9%
    2004	3787	3302	20.0%	0.0%
    2005	3530	2885	26.9%	3.8%
    2006	3976	3608	0.0%	0.0%
    2007	4023	3731	19.2%	0.0%
    2008	4482	4215	12.0%	8.0%
    2009	3991	4022	24.0%	4.0%
    2010	4509	2731	35.7%	14.3%
    
    Code:
    Final Numbers
    Year	Average	Median	%<2K	%>10k
    2002	3037	2185	40.1%	3.6%
    2003	3335	2463	42.9%	4.1%
    2004	3878	3107	30.9%	4.5%
    2005	4527	3554	19.6%	7.7%
    2006	4666	3370	18.5%	10.7%
    2007	4771	4274	19.6%	10.1%
    2008	5164	4510	10.9%	12.1%
    2009	4709	3662	21.2%	13.3%
    
    USL2/D3 Pro League

    Code:
    % of season completed
    21.7%
    Year	Average	Median	%<1K	%>3k
    2005	1583	1422	21.1%	10.5%
    2006	1855	1472	15.8%	21.1%
    2007	1668	1608	33.3%	9.5%
    2008	1761	1723	23.8%	19.0%
    2009	1548	1237	21.1%	0.0%
    2010	1705	1279	38.5%	23.1%
    
    Code:
    Final Numbers
    Year	Average	Median	%<1K	%>3k
    2005	1680	1457	21.4%	11.9%
    2006	1803	1703	14.1%	11.8%
    2007	1575	1423	28.1%	6.3%
    2008	1614	1629	26.0%	7.3%
    2009	1602	1518	31.8%	7.1%
    
     
  24. Mikey mouse

    Mikey mouse Member

    Jul 27, 1999
    Charleston, SC
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Your right. I had looked the numbers up and got distracted before I made my post. I was trying to go by memory but guess thats what happens when you start to age!
     
  25. GOALSeattle

    GOALSeattle Member

    Oct 13, 2007
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Victoria -1,480
    Fresno - 2,318

    Kitsap hoping for something in the 2k-range this weekend for their home opener.

    (USL-2 West candidates)
     

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