2010 MLS Attendance Analysis: Week 6

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Andy_B, Apr 27, 2010.

  1. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're taking the medians of the averages. Not the medians of the games.

    The median attendance figure in MLS this season is 14,843 (Chivas at Houston, 4/13, the 19th value in the set of 37 figures when placed largest-to-smallest). The median is not the median of the averages of each individual team. THAT number would be 16,147. But that's not how we determine the league median.
     
  2. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OleGunnar E. Coyote, Super Genius














    Ka-boom!
     
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  3. BirdsonFire

    BirdsonFire Member

    May 9, 2008
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    sigh

    dude, stop
     
  4. CrewBeat

    CrewBeat Be Massive My Friends

    Jul 27, 2004
    Manhattan
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let's say for example Seattle has played 3 home games and Columbus has only played 2, then it's going to skew your median. Your method is not valid for looking at things in the context of the league, which is what Andy_B is looking at.
     
  5. Golazo

    Golazo Member+

    Apr 15, 1999
    Decatur, GA USA
    Indeed
     
  6. BirdsonFire

    BirdsonFire Member

    May 9, 2008
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    is this kid for real?
     
  7. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    stop.
     
  8. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    please stop polluting this thread with your posts
     
  9. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then stop saying that the thing you are measuring is what "most people" are interested in.

    It isn't about there being a hive or some sort of super-secret set of rules. It's about not being a pompous, bull-headed douche. That's the test you are failing.
     
  10. BirdsonFire

    BirdsonFire Member

    May 9, 2008
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    so who is olegunnar20 a sock for???
     
  11. nick

    nick Member+

    Nov 23, 1998
    Potomac Falls, Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now all you need to do is perform 2nd Order Ranking of the Ranking, e.g., Rank the AAQs which provides how well MLS has done over the years.:D
     
  12. BirdsonFire

    BirdsonFire Member

    May 9, 2008
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    thanks for the clean-up
     
  13. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is very nice. It distills things down into an easier-to-see set of numbers. What really jumps out to me is how bad 1999-2001 was. Of course, it's with an incomplete season. It will be interesting to see what the table looks like for a complete season.

    This data set gets any bigger, and you're going to have to request special formatting from BigSoccer.;)
     
  14. BirdsonFire

    BirdsonFire Member

    May 9, 2008
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    That was do or die time for the league.

    The Florida teams were still around. The Crew were running out of a place to play.

    The investors had a big decision to make.

    Do we stay or do we go?




    Obviously they stayed.


    And the results have been amazing.

    Crew Stadium
    '02 World Cup
    Home Depot Center
    Pizza Hut Park
    Toyota Park
    Dick Sporting Goods Park
    BMO Field
    whatever the Union calls their place
    Red Bull Arena

    plus KC is being built


    And how most of the newbies since that time have come in: Toronto, Seattle, Philly.

    I gotta say, I like what the KC owners have done. Houston has done well with their play and good support.




    This also took a lot of faith and a lot of cash. I hear Anschutz even skipped an oil change or two.
     
  15. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Forgot Rio Tinto.

    Yeah, there are so damn many stadiums that have been built for MLS teams that we can forget one.

    And Houston's will break ground this fall. And San Jose's will break ground whenever the owner decides to.
     
  16. BirdsonFire

    BirdsonFire Member

    May 9, 2008
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
  17. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, I don't mind. I had to work a bit to figure out if there was one missing, and which one it was.

    ...and I'm still expecting someone to pop in here and inform us that we missed another:)
     
  18. El Naranja

    El Naranja Member+

    Sep 5, 2006
    Alief
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Clearly you are either misreading the numbers or are just an idiot. According to the geniuses from last week's thread, the league is about to implode and all our teams will disappear.

    :rolleyes:
     
  19. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, Crew Stadium opened in 1999, and the Crew led the league in attendance that year.
     
  20. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Move MLS to India!
     
  21. jayd8888

    jayd8888 Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Denver CO
    Its a pretty confusing few pages of thread to read now, which is a bummer because the new AAQ numbers are cool in that I was one of those people who were thinking that an AAQ of 4.74 meant that as of this week 2010 was just shy of being 4th best all time. I can only imagine the thread was trying to mirror last week's.
     
  22. BirdsonFire

    BirdsonFire Member

    May 9, 2008
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I believe in years past other posters have occasionally offered the AAQ by year. And I'm somewhat certain I've done the odder AAQ that I have mentioned a couple of times in this thread.

    If I find my power supply, I'll toss one together real quick.
     
  23. BirdsonFire

    BirdsonFire Member

    May 9, 2008
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Year AAQ BAQ
    1996 1.50 1.00
    1997 9.75 2.00
    1998 7.25 2.25
    1999 12.50 3.50
    2000 12.75 3.75
    2001 10.50 3.75
    2002 4.75 2.50
    2003 8.00 4.25
    2004 7.25 4.25
    2005 11.50 7.50
    2006 3.75 3.00
    2007 9.25 7.25
    2008 5.50 5.00
    2009 10.25 9.25
    2010 4.75 4.75


    Numbers could be off because I did this by hand. Additionally, BAQ = AAQ of given year with the understanding that it does not account for any years past given year.
     
  24. Sal Paradise

    Sal Paradise BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 14, 2009
    Club:
    Jaguares de Chiapas FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you think MLS teams draw poorly with weekday games, you should check out the two Mexican teams at home in the Copa Libertadores tonight. San Luis looked like they had maybe 3000 spectators. Chivas might have a few more but they're lying if they say it's more than 5,000. I guess the US isn't the only place where soccer only draws on the weekend. :cool:
     
  25. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    3,015 in New York for the Open Cup. Kind of a small number, even if nobody cares about this competition... Oh well.
     

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